Strongest Classic Field Ever? - Page 5

slotdirt · #81 10-28-2010, 06:22 AM

Well written.

Danzig · #82 10-28-2010, 06:30 AM

an excellent reply to drape's ridiculous article.

Indian Charlie · #83 10-28-2010, 09:15 AM

She probably won't run anyways.

randallscott35 · #84 10-28-2010, 09:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Indian Charlie

She probably won't run anyways.

Wouldn't shock me

hockey2315 · #85 10-28-2010, 09:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Indian Charlie

She probably won't run anyways.

I'd cry. I can't wait to taunt the Z fans post-Classic.

slotdirt · #86 10-28-2010, 10:02 AM

Considering how many of them - males includes - will already be crying, that doesn't seem very...nice.

Indian Charlie · #87 10-28-2010, 11:45 AM

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Originally Posted by hockey2315

I'd cry. I can't wait to taunt the Z fans post-Classic.

That would be the most useless of endeavors. They will say stupid crap like, "She's a six year old and is three years past the time horses should even be running"

Or

"It was too speed favoring a track"

Or

"Flying over the Rockies sapped her will to win"

Or

"She wanted to be nice to her opposition"

Or

"Even though she's been to Arkansas twice, she got spooked by being around too many rednecks"

Etc.

Etc.

Ad nauseum

Sightseek · #88 10-28-2010, 11:47 AM

Everyone has a built in excuse, it's being run under the lights.

Indian Charlie · #89 10-28-2010, 11:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Sightseek

Everyone has a built in excuse, it's being run under the lights.

I didn't even consider that, but now that I think about it, that should favor her.

the_fat_man · #90 10-28-2010, 12:25 PM

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Originally Posted by hockey2315

I'd cry. I can't wait to taunt the Z fans post-Classic.

Did you taunt the RA fans after little Z beat her and she had to be subsequently/eventually retired? Did you taunt all those fans of the FAST QR when he got dusted? After all those threads about how he would have no trouble going 10F and would bury anything presently running? Seems to me you and all the Z bashers were very much fans of RA and QR. Which makes it interesting that all of you are finding the nuts to continually come after Z and her supporters.

I could care less if Z wins the Classic or not. But if I were all over RA and QR, I certainly would've shut the f u c k up at this point. Of course, all those that were WRONG about RA and QR have left is to go on the offensive and come after Z (and her supporters). And if Z fails, it still only means that you were right ONE out of THREE times. And if she wins it'll be because the field was very weak.

The problem with all the s hi t being thrown around here is that all of you have a bit of a history of some very poor opinions. Hard to take any of you seriously after the QR debacle this year. The super horse. ha ha ha. Especially since I was one his (and RA's) harshest critics. Know what I mean, Ace?

So, you might want to wait a little bit longer.

#91 10-28-2010, 12:27 PM

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Originally Posted by the_fat_man

The problem with all the s hi t being thrown around here is that all of you have a bit of a history of some very poor opinions. Hard to take any of you seriously after the QR debacle this year. The super horse. ha ha ha. Especially since I was one his (and RA's) harshest critics. Know what I mean, Ace?

So, you might want to wait a little bit longer.

OMG

Cannon Shell · #92 10-28-2010, 02:37 PM

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Originally Posted by HomerS

Almost as many excuses as Zenyettas detractors

Those would be referred to as facts as opposed to excuses.

Personally i believe Mike Smith will bear the brunt of the post-race criticism
a.Moved too early
b.Moved too late
c.Too wide
d.Got blocked
e.Didnt switch leads

hockey2315 · #93 10-28-2010, 02:46 PM

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Originally Posted by the_fat_man

Did you taunt the RA fans after little Z beat her and she had to be subsequently/eventually retired? Did you taunt all those fans of the FAST QR when he got dusted? After all those threads about how he would have no trouble going 10F and would bury anything presently running? Seems to me you and all the Z bashers were very much fans of RA and QR. Which makes it interesting that all of you are finding the nuts to continually come after Z and her supporters.

I could care less if Z wins the Classic or not. But if I were all over RA and QR, I certainly would've shut the f u c k up at this point. Of course, all those that were WRONG about RA and QR have left is to go on the offensive and come after Z (and her supporters). And if Z fails, it still only means that you were right ONE out of THREE times. And if she wins it'll be because the field was very weak.

The problem with all the s hi t being thrown around here is that all of you have a bit of a history of some very poor opinions. Hard to take any of you seriously after the QR debacle this year. The super horse. ha ha ha. Especially since I was one his (and RA's) harshest critics. Know what I mean, Ace?

So, you might want to wait a little bit longer.

As you've displayed, the complete insanity and irrationality of those stricken with Zen-fever eclipses anything positive ever said about the other two you've mentioned. The bigger they are, the harder they fall.

#94 10-28-2010, 03:04 PM

^^
Captain Hindsight fan

Cannon Shell · #95 10-28-2010, 03:09 PM

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Originally Posted by HomerS

I always get a kick of the word "facts". Whether used by politicians or horseplayers.

Probably one of the few who is not a "hater" or a "zealot" of the horse. More of a bemused onlooker.

I do think it is a great opportunity to make money- betting against her.

But dont get how personal the whole thing has gotten from both sides.

If she wins (which dont think will happen) not one of her haters would say "I was wrong". They would just dig in some more. Thats the way its always gone. And if she loses (which think will be the case) you will have people saying "see" and try to discredit every race she has ever run. Which is just silly and childish.

The thing is that, what many of the supposed detractors have pointed out wont be washed away with a win in the Classic. The weakness of her competition for the vast majority of her career and especially this year's inane schedule for a horse aiming for a horse of the year title is hardly childish or silly. I think the telling part of the argument is that when confronted with this the Zenyatta zealots don't come up with a counterpoint to the claim but launch counter attacks that we dont "appreciate greatness, she is special, you are just a hater, she is better than RA, ..."

Most of her 'detractors' make the point that we believe she is a very talented horse. But the facts are she has 2 dirt wins, 1 win over males and this year has beaten pretty much a bunch of mediocre (to be nice) fillies and yet we are supposed to rank her with Citation?

TouchOfGrey · #96 10-28-2010, 03:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

Most of her 'detractors' make the point that we believe she is a very talented horse. But the facts are she has 2 dirt wins, 1 win over males and this year has beaten pretty much a bunch of mediocre (to be nice) fillies and yet we are supposed to rank her with Citation?

Citation didn't dance.

Cannon Shell · #97 10-28-2010, 03:21 PM

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Originally Posted by TouchOfGrey

Citation didn't dance.

He danced as well as Kurt Warner

alysheba4 · #98 10-28-2010, 04:16 PM

i used to own a 50 year anniversary video about H.P which had a lot of fotage of
citation.......what a tremendous looking horse he was.

Antitrust32 · #99 10-28-2010, 04:37 PM

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Originally Posted by TouchOfGrey

Citation didn't dance.

Clip-Clop · #**100** 10-28-2010, 05:06 PM

He has confused competetive with "great" the field looks like it will make a great betting race. Lots of races do that. Does not make them great. Ghostzappers was really solid in recent memory.