PHA cancelled..

[Duvalier]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

We have trained everyday since last Wednesday and did this morning as well so we haven't missed too much training, yet. Obviously each horse has different requirements depending on age, soundness, current fitness, etc. It is really hard to say exactly how much fitness you will lose or how long it will take to get back to an optimum level. Since 90% of the horses running at Philly are stabled there pretty much everyone is in the same boat. In fact some of the older lower level horses will probably benefit from not training so much.

I saw the track was open a few days and workouts were published but I didn't realize it had been open for training since last Wednesday. Thanks for the info.

[freddymo]

Originally Posted by Duvalier

I saw the track was open a few days and workouts were published but I didn't realize it had been open for training since last Wednesday. Thanks for the info.

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[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by freddymo

You dont think takeout should be decreased?

Did you miss "not that this isnt a good idea"? Of course it should be decreased but what I am saying is that they will decrease takeout and use it as "evidence" that lowering takeout doesn't work. If you lower takeout at a track like Penn sure the handle will go up. It may double. But it will likely never get high enough for them to make enough money on the racing end to not want to get rid of the headache. They will say that yes decreasing the takeout did increase handle but not enough to allow racing to be "self sustaining".

[freddymo]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

Did you miss "not that this isnt a good idea"? Of course it should be decreased but what I am saying is that they will decrease takeout and use it as "evidence" that lowering takeout doesn't work. If you lower takeout at a track like Penn sure the handle will go up. It may double. But it will likely never get high enough for them to make enough money on the racing end to not want to get rid of the headache. They will say that yes decreasing the takeout did increase handle but not enough to allow racing to be "self sustaining".

So you are afraid the state is going to agree to lower takeouts witness a increase in handle and then abandon racing because Penn nat(whoever) tells them even with a lower takeout we cant afford the burden of racing?

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by freddymo

So you are afraid the state is going to agree to lower takeouts witness a increase in handle and then abandon racing because Penn nat(whoever) tells them even with a lower takeout we cant afford the burden of racing?

I think that it will be a done deal before they do anything. Only the truly naive think that state or local govt aren't in the pockets of large corps like Penn National gaming. It may take a few years but he is setting the table for the future when the opportune time occurs.

[freddymo]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

I think that it will be a done deal before they do anything. Only the truly naive think that state or local govt aren't in the pockets of large corps like Penn National gaming. It may take a few years but he is setting the table for the future when the opportune time occurs.

I dont see takeout ever being decreased to a level that will attract so much more handle. It would have to be cut by at least a third to have such a dramatic impact. Doubling Penn's handle is more a function of ditching the 5 claimers which aint happening so fast. there are 15oo head on the grounds 800 of which should have another career

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by freddymo

I dont see takeout ever being decreased to a level that will attract so much more handle. It would have to be cut by at least a third to have such a dramatic impact. Doubling Penn's handle is more a function of ditching the 5 claimers which aint happening so fast. there are 15oo head on the grounds 800 of which should have another career

People will happily bet on bad races, see Tampa races 1-5 everyday

[freddymo]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

People will happily bet on bad races, see Tampa races 1-5 everyday

Tampa is going ok hardily earth shattering

[richard]

Very disappointing to have bean counters in the position that this guy from Penn is in . No imagination, no creativity, all negative , depressed opinions . Smart ass comments like "I'm glad the horses are eating well." Why do they even bother to retain him ? He's a drag on our sport and life in general .

[freddymo]

Originally Posted by richard

Very disappointing to have bean counters in the position that this guy from Penn is in . No imagination, no creativity, all negative , depressed opinions . Smart ass comments like "I'm glad the horses are eating well." Why do they even bother to retain him ? He's a drag on our sport and life in general .

He runs casinos not racetracks

[richard]

Why does he bother to get out of bed in the morning ? Genting said they would integrate their casino experience with the track. Maybe this guy is pissed because NY slam dunked his lousy bid for the Aq racino into the garbage can.

[freddymo]

Originally Posted by richard

Why does he bother to get out of bed in the morning ? Genting said they would integrate their casino experience with the track. Maybe this guy is pissed because NY slam dunked his lousy bid for the Aq racino into the garbage can.

If you think Genting is going to give a flyin fvck about racing your are sadly mistaken.

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by Duvalier

I saw the track was open a few days and workouts were published but I didn't realize it had been open for training since last Wednesday. Thanks for the info.

Parx added sand to the track today in an attempt to dry/even it out. There will be training tommorrow though they wont race again till Saturday (hopefully).

[Duvalier]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

Parx added sand to the track today in an attempt to dry/even it out. There will be training tommorrow though they wont race again till Saturday (hopefully).

Thanks for the update

[freddymo]

Is Philly racing today?

[Bigsmc]

Originally Posted by freddymo

Is Philly racing today?

No

[Alan07]

Parx Racing in suburban Philadelphia, plagued by moisture in the base of the racing surface that alternates between freezing and thawing, hopes to resume live racing on Saturday after scrapping its fifth consecutive program on Wednesday.

http://www.drf.com/news/parx-cancels...-saturday-card