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Old 02-22-2011, 06:34 PM
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Default Mystery solved!

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I watched the Win and Exacta pools as the Ky Derby Future Wager closed yesterday (on TwinSpires.com). A few minutes after 6pm EST, when the pools had clearly stopped updating, I took screen shots of the two pools. At that time there was $403,515 in the Win pool and $90,814 in the Exacta pool.

Today I was surprised to read that there was $480,375 in the Win pool and $112,117 in the Exacta pool. Where was that new $77K of the Win pool hiding? How about the new $22K of the exacta pool?

I'm not talking about late money here. I'm talking about money that hadn't shown up several minutes after the pool closed.

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Okay, I've solved the mystery and it's pretty damn weird! TwinSpires was displaying the Pool size AFTER takeout! $403,515 is precisely 84% of $480,375. And $90,814 is 81% of $112,117.

Also, when they showed the amount bet on each horse in the Win pool, they were actually showing 84% of the amount bet on each horse. For example, at the end of betting TwinSpires showed Uncle Mo with $72,532 in bets. But really Uncle Mo had $72,532/0.84 = $86,348 bet on him.

Because they reduced all the figs by 16%, the odds calculation produces the same number. But I'm guessing that there is some roundoff difference that explains the $1-$2 discrepancy I mentioned above in some of the "final" exactas.

It's pretty clearly a goof-up, but it had minimal consequences. Here's the only negative consequence I can think of: Big bettors need to know the pool size in order to guage how much their bets will move the odds. In this case, they were left underestimating how much they could bet, because TwinSpires was displaying an exacta pool figure that was 19% smaller than the actual exacta pool, and a win pool figure that was 16% smaller than the actual win pool.

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