Obama's budget speech

[lord007]

Originally Posted by somerfrost

Really wish folks would get a grip and quit with the GOP soundbites, President Obama is middle of the road not far left....I'm what folks call far left and I'm not one bit happy with his pandering to the right!!

Thought it was Bumper stickers??? Oh wait that's Riot...sorry

[miraja2]

Originally Posted by paulo537

Only the most far-left are happy with Obama.

You must be joking.

[dellinger63]

Originally Posted by miraja2

You must be joking.

Should have read, 'Only Riot of the far left is happy with Obama.'

[timmgirvan]

Originally Posted by jms62

I see "PAPER: OBAMA SPEECH 'DISHONEST'..." which links to a freakin Op-Ed piece. Can you provide a link to the the "Most Dishonest in Decades!" or is that you embellishing a bit? Also another question I am really curious about. You mentioned previously that you collected SSI. I'm trying to understand how someone collecting an entitlement would side with the party that wants to eliminate entitlements. I can't wrap my arms around that.

It was the lead headline on Drudge last night!

I don't believe that the GOP want to eliminate entitlements. I think this mostly cannon fodder for the press. Also, I dont think SSDI is an entitlement per se.

[brianwspencer]

Originally Posted by dellinger63

Should have read, 'Only Riot of the far left is happy with Obama.'

That doesn't make that much sense, because Riot isn't exactly "far left."

You point to her as that because she often agrees with Obama, but the problem with that equation is that Obama isn't (and hasn't been) governing in a "far left" style in just about any way.

Ya know, considering that the real "far left" is pretty sick and tired of him and think he's an enormous failure as far as being progressive, or "far left," actually goes.

The true "far left" probably only hates him (edited to point out that in this case, the far left "hates him" = hates his administration, not actually him like you do) about 15% less than you do, but for completely different reasons.

[hi_im_god]

Originally Posted by timmgirvan

It was the lead headline on Drudge last night!

I don't believe that the GOP want to eliminate entitlements. I think this mostly cannon fodder for the press. Also, I dont think SSDI is an entitlement per se.

not begrudging you anything but if ssdi isn't an entitlement, what do you define as one?

[timmgirvan]

Originally Posted by hi_im_god

not begrudging you anything but if ssdi isn't an entitlement, what do you define as one?

Firstly, you pay into this specific acct all through your working years, and I can't remember if it has a yearly cap or not. Possibly welfare and food stamps might be considered as stronger entitlements.

[Riot]

Originally Posted by paulo537

Only the most far-left are happy with Obama and willing to defend him like you.
.

Um ... clearly, no. The "far-left" are the ones extremely unhappy with Obama, and have been for some time (since healthcare debate really).

It's moderates and ex-Republicans, like me, that are happier with what he's done.

[Riot]

Originally Posted by jms62

I see "PAPER: OBAMA SPEECH 'DISHONEST'..." which links to a freakin Op-Ed piece. Can you provide a link to the the "Most Dishonest in Decades!" or is that you embellishing a bit? Also another question I am really curious about. You mentioned previously that you collected SSI. I'm trying to understand how someone collecting an entitlement would side with the party that wants to eliminate entitlements. I can't wrap my arms around that.

Ditto. Puzzling.

[Riot]

Originally Posted by timmgirvan

I don't believe that the GOP want to eliminate entitlements.

Timm, c'mon - eliminating entitlements is a basic Republican tenant currently. The core of the Republican Party right now is to privatize and thus eliminate Medicare, Medicaid (that is contained in the current Ryan budget proposal) and they'd love to get rid of Social Security and replace it with private accounts (tried in the past, will be tried again in the future)

[Riot]

I'm tired of the term "entitlement", being used as if it's a bad word, as if it's something stolen. It's not. Thanks to the far right for that.

It used to mean that Americans and the least fortunate (children, disabled) were "entitled" to peace of mind in their old age or with their disability, were entitled to an old age with health care and devoid of poverty.

The "entitlement" of Social Security has dropped elder poverty from around 50% when it was initiated, to virtually nothing now.

[Riot]

Originally Posted by brianwspencer

The true "far left" probably only hates him (edited to point out that in this case, the far left "hates him" = hates his administration, not actually him like you do) about 15% less than you do, but for completely different reasons.

You might like this Obama a bit better

"Obama caught with open mike"
http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-503544_1...85-503544.html

[timmgirvan]

Originally Posted by Riot

I'm tired of the term "entitlement", being used as if it's a bad word, as if it's something stolen. It's not. Thanks to the far right for that.

It used to mean that Americans and the least fortunate (children, disabled) were "entitled" to peace of mind in their old age or with their disability, were entitled to an old age with health care and devoid of poverty.

The "entitlement" of Social Security has dropped elder poverty from around 50% when it was initiated, to virtually nothing now.

I'll drink to that!