Pope rewards pedophile bshop with vacation retreat

[hi_im_god]

Originally Posted by dellinger63

No I think psychologists who have somehow come to the conclusion that individual pedophiles do not have any gender preference are confused.

When a child molester boards a plane for Thailand do you think he/she will hire which ever gender comes their way or do they know which sex they are looking for? I obviously think the later. Child molestation is IMO one of the most horrible crimes there is as the victim is always completely innocent. To not recognize the signs and clues because of some false, accepted, theory is dangerous.

BTW I know far more girls who were molested than I do boys despite attending 12 years of catholic school. And they are all forever injured some far worse than others.

i googled "do pedophiles display gender preferences?" and could find no link suggesting they didn't. whatever widespread opinion you think there is otherwise has managed to elude the internet.

maybe you set up a straw man argument sometime in the past and then forgot about it so are now arguing with your past self. because i don't know who else it could be.

[dellinger63]

Originally Posted by hi_im_god

i googled "do pedophiles display gender preferences?" and could find no link suggesting they didn't. whatever widespread opinion you think there is otherwise has managed to elude the internet.

maybe you set up a straw man argument sometime in the past and then forgot about it so are now arguing with your past self. because i don't know who else it could be.

This was an argument based on past dt posts. Think it may have been a danzig post. I'll get back when I get a minute.

[dellinger63]

Originally Posted by dellinger63

This was an argument based on past dt posts. Think it may have been a danzig post. I'll get back when I get a minute.

I had a minute and this is what I was speaking of

By Danzig as I thought

http://psychology.ucdavis.edu/rainbo...lestation.html

The distinction between a victim's gender and a perpetrator's sexual orientation is important because many child molesters don't really have an adult sexual orientation. They have never developed the capacity for mature sexual relationships with other adults, either men or women. Instead, their sexual attractions focus on children – boys, girls, or children of both sexes.

and


the important point is that many child molesters cannot be meaningfully described as homosexuals, heterosexuals, or bisexuals (in the usual sense of those terms) because they are not really capable of a relationship with an adult man or woman. Instead of gender, their sexual attractions are based primarily on age. These individuals – who are often characterized as fixated – are attracted to children, not to men or women.


and

This well known lack of a linkage between homosexuality and child molestation accounts for why relatively little research has directly addressed the issue. Proving something we already know simply isn't a priority.

[hi_im_god]

Originally Posted by dellinger63

I had a minute and this is what I was speaking of

By Danzig as I thought

http://psychology.ucdavis.edu/rainbo...lestation.html

The distinction between a victim's gender and a perpetrator's sexual orientation is important because many child molesters don't really have an adult sexual orientation. They have never developed the capacity for mature sexual relationships with other adults, either men or women. Instead, their sexual attractions focus on children – boys, girls, or children of both sexes.

and


the important point is that many child molesters cannot be meaningfully described as homosexuals, heterosexuals, or bisexuals (in the usual sense of those terms) because they are not really capable of a relationship with an adult man or woman. Instead of gender, their sexual attractions are based primarily on age. These individuals – who are often characterized as fixated – are attracted to children, not to men or women.


and

This well known lack of a linkage between homosexuality and child molestation accounts for why relatively little research has directly addressed the issue. Proving something we already know simply isn't a priority.

i don't read that as stating pedophiles lack a preference for any specific gender. Replace the term "men and women" with "adults" and i think the author's meaning will be clearer.

[dellinger63]

Originally Posted by hi_im_god

i don't read that as stating pedophiles lack a preference for any specific gender. Replace the term "men and women" with "adults" and i think the author's meaning will be clearer.

Regardless of what the author meant the interpretation that pedophiles lack preference was inferred in the quoted thread. I'm just glad we (at least you and I) agree pedophiles act on their sexual orientation minus a few who maybe bi-sexual? Just hope the rest of the world catches up if in fact they were behind to begin with.

[Mike]

I start a thread to stir up trouble, and come back to see people here having a civil discussion of ideas

[dellinger63]

Originally Posted by Mike

I start a thread to stir up trouble, and come back to see people here having a civil discussion of ideas

Except this subject is important as it involves children

[Mike]

Originally Posted by dellinger63

Except this subject is important as it involves children

Oh, i know, I'm just pleasantly surprised this hasn't disntegrated into name calling (well ,not too much)

[dellinger63]

Originally Posted by Mike

Oh, i know, I'm just pleasantly surprised this hasn't disntegrated into name calling (well ,not too much)

Wait till Riot gets back from the Post Office.

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by dellinger63

I had a minute and this is what I was speaking of

By Danzig as I thought

http://psychology.ucdavis.edu/rainbo...lestation.html

The distinction between a victim's gender and a perpetrator's sexual orientation is important because many child molesters don't really have an adult sexual orientation. They have never developed the capacity for mature sexual relationships with other adults, either men or women. Instead, their sexual attractions focus on children – boys, girls, or children of both sexes.

and


the important point is that many child molesters cannot be meaningfully described as homosexuals, heterosexuals, or bisexuals (in the usual sense of those terms) because they are not really capable of a relationship with an adult man or woman. Instead of gender, their sexual attractions are based primarily on age. These individuals – who are often characterized as fixated – are attracted to children, not to men or women.


and

This well known lack of a linkage between homosexuality and child molestation accounts for why relatively little research has directly addressed the issue. Proving something we already know simply isn't a priority.

i believe the main point of that article is that pedophile doesn't equal gay for one...for another, these people are drawn to children. as someone posted above, it makes sense that the predominant victim of a priest is a boy, due to it being mostly young men who are altar servers in churches. of course, when you look at victims such as those in the irish orphanages, the victims were of both sexes, since both were accessible by the priests and nuns.

i would have to think that the priesthood would appeal to people who don't mature sexually-i just can't imagine that a man would willingly give up any hope of intimacy with a woman unless that just plain doesn't cross his mind at all.


the catholic church needs to once again catch up with the times. centuries ago, men were allowed to marry as priests. it was mainly a financial reason that the rules were changed, barring marriage, to begin with. it wasn't due to any mandate from heaven, or from some bible verse-it was money.


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the real shame is that the guy in the article in the beginning of this thread can't be charged because of the statute of limitations. he's a real slimeball, who does like most criminals-attempts to justify his horrible behavior.
dante, were he alive today, would definitely have to expand hell a circle or two.

[dellinger63]

Originally Posted by Danzig

i believe the main point of that article is that pedophile doesn't equal gay for one...for another, these people are drawn to children. as someone posted above, it makes sense that the predominant victim of a priest is a boy, due to it being mostly young men who are altar servers in churches. of course, when you look at victims such as those in the irish orphanages, the victims were of both sexes, since both were accessible by the priests and nuns.

i would have to think that the priesthood would appeal to people who don't mature sexually-i just can't imagine that a man would willingly give up any hope of intimacy with a woman unless that just plain doesn't cross his mind at all.


the catholic church needs to once again catch up with the times. centuries ago, men were allowed to marry as priests. it was mainly a financial reason that the rules were changed, barring marriage, to begin with. it wasn't due to any mandate from heaven, or from some bible verse-it was money.


edit~

the real shame is that the guy in the article in the beginning of this thread can't be charged because of the statute of limitations. he's a real slimeball, who does like most criminals-attempts to justify his horrible behavior.
dante, were he alive today, would definitely have to expand hell a circle or two.

I certainly agree pedophile does not equal gay but even when I was in grade school 70-77 there were altar girls.

IMO and this probably won't sit well, the catholic church for one reason or another following the depression attracted young gay men to its seminaries, who probably because of family shunning were unable to come out. They sought the church out because maybe they wouldn't get questioned about marriage but more importantly they made their families proud. Then mirroring society in general those with pedophile tendencies acted out and understandably boys were the target. I may be wrong and there may be a whole slew of catholic girls out there so ashamed they won't speak but I don't think so. I think unlike society in general most priests, at least when I was in school were gay though only a small minority (3-4 out of 150-200) were guilty and only one I would term a pedophile. Again admittedly this is a very small sample and my observations.

The men who board Taiwanese flights with brief cases of viagra know what sex they will order when they arrive and could have told you which most likely when they were their victims' age. And when pedophiles sport jewelry 'showing their colors' best parents, teachers, law enforcement and ideally kids know what those colors are.

[Antitrust32]

Originally Posted by dellinger63

No I think psychologists who have somehow come to the conclusion that individual pedophiles do not have any gender preference are confused.

When a child molester boards a plane for Thailand do you think he/she will hire which ever gender comes their way or do they know which sex they are looking for? I obviously think the later. Child molestation is IMO one of the most horrible crimes there is as the victim is always completely innocent. To not recognize the signs and clues because of some false, accepted, theory is dangerous.

BTW I know far more girls who were molested than I do boys despite attending 12 years of catholic school. And they are all forever injured some far worse than others.

I didnt realize psychologists came up with that conclusion. I dont study much about sick, disgusting people... even though its hard to miss articles about catholic priests these days.

[Antitrust32]

Originally Posted by hi_im_god

i googled "do pedophiles display gender preferences?" and could find no link suggesting they didn't. whatever widespread opinion you think there is otherwise has managed to elude the internet.

maybe you set up a straw man argument sometime in the past and then forgot about it so are now arguing with your past self. because i don't know who else it could be.

[Antitrust32]

Originally Posted by dellinger63

Regardless of what the author meant the interpretation that pedophiles lack preference was inferred in the quoted thread. I'm just glad we (at least you and I) agree pedophiles act on their sexual orientation minus a few who maybe bi-sexual? Just hope the rest of the world catches up if in fact they were behind to begin with.

no it wasnt at all... especially in the paragraphs you quoted.

My big issue was your constant reference to Homosexual Pedophiles. you were putting down gays in the same light as perverts. thats because I believe you think gays are perverts. pedophiles are just sick fucl<s... not gay or straight or bi because they ARE NOT EVEN ATTRACTED TO ADULTS.

[dellinger63]

Originally Posted by Antitrust32

. pedophiles are just sick fucl<s... not gay or straight or bi because they ARE NOT EVEN ATTRACTED TO ADULTS.

I agree pedophiles are sick fucs but to ignore the fact some are going around wearing rings and handing off coins boldly admitting whom they are is asinine. Pedophiles do in fact have a gender preference as displayed by a whole group of admitted pedophiles. Just happens the FBI memo I cited showed man-boy love rings and coins. Most likely there are man-girl rings and coins but I couldn't find any reference for such. Certainly not all pedophiles are gay and in fact the vast majority are not and are actually hetero. They are the perverts who have charter groups going to third world countries. That's why some crazy number like 1/4 of girls were abused as children.

However to ignore those who are so bold as to display they are pedophiles either by sporting jewelry or booking sex retreats is negligent and borderline criminal to the yet victimized, innocent children.

[Antitrust32]

Originally Posted by dellinger63

I agree pedophiles are sick fucs but to ignore the fact some are going around wearing rings and handing off coins boldly admitting whom they are is asinine. Pedophiles do in fact have a gender preference as displayed by a whole group of admitted pedophiles. Just happens the FBI memo I cited showed man-boy love rings and coins. Most likely there are man-girl rings and coins but I couldn't find any reference for such. Certainly not all pedophiles are gay and in fact the vast majority are not and are actually hetero. They are the perverts who have charter groups going to third world countries. That's why some crazy number like 1/4 of girls were abused as children.

However to ignore those who are so bold as to display they are pedophiles either by sporting jewelry or booking sex retreats is negligent and borderline criminal to the yet victimized, innocent children.

honestly i think pedophiles should be slaughtered like the pigs they are.

thats actually an insult to pigs.

I dont know anything about this jewelery they are wearing but its disgusting & I dont even want to think about those people right now (or ever)