Goodbye Weiner

I am intolerant of the direction of this thread. I need government intervention to prevent me from calling you a stupid f.uck.

[somerfrost]

Originally Posted by Coach Pants

I am intolerant of the direction of this thread. I need government intervention to prevent me from calling you a stupid f.uck.

Naw, you are independent and free to call me anything you want.

[dellinger63]

Originally Posted by somerfrost

Independence by no means guarantees tolerance, they are completely separate concepts...just because one is "free" does not mean he/she is tolerant of the rights of others.

And pointing out hypocrisy, as in the case with 'I'm not a stand by your man' Hillary Clinton does not make one intolerant. Neither does not wanting to support you and subsidizing insurance policies.

[clyde]

Any Free Carpenters in here?

[Riot]

Originally Posted by dellinger63

With independence there is no need for tolerence. It would be inherented. Everyone would be independent and equal. What America is supposed to be.

Somer and ur bad knee be damned.

There's just this mishmosh of words flowing around crazy inside your head, isn't there?

[dellinger63]

Originally Posted by Riot

There's just this mishmosh of words flowing around crazy inside your head, isn't there?

Not really, just a bit of common sense.

Like understanding spending will never ever get one out of bankruptcy.

[Riot]

Originally Posted by dellinger63

Not really, just a bit of common sense.

Like understanding spending will never ever get one out of bankruptcy.

You mean common sense like knowing that in America each citzen is already independent and equal? Or common sense that spending isn't to get one "out of bankruptcy", it's to get one out of "recession", which are two entirely different things?

[dellinger63]

Originally Posted by Riot

You mean common sense like knowing that in America each citzen is already independent and equal? Or common sense that spending isn't to get one "out of bankruptcy", it's to get one out of "recession", which are two entirely different things?

Sorry I didn't come up with the statement, Biden did!!!!

And if each citizen is already indepedent and equal why the need to subsidize health insurance?

[Riot]

Originally Posted by dellinger63

Sorry I didn't come up with the statement, Biden did!!!!

And if each citizen is already indepedent and equal why the need to subsidize health insurance?

Precisely because people are equal. You think about that for a while. You might be able to figure it out.

Maybe.

Meanwhile, make a list of every luxury you enjoy simply because society in the form of government banding together to benefit all of us is what we do as Americans.

Start with affordable potable water.

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by Riot

Precisely because people are equal. You think about that for a while. You might be able to figure it out.

Maybe.

Meanwhile, make a list of every luxury you enjoy simply because society in the form of government banding together to benefit all of us is what we do as Americans.

Start with affordable potable water.

i have a well. i don't know that i have that because of society.


water's a luxury??

[Riot]

Originally Posted by Danzig

i have a well. i don't know that i have that because of society.


water's a luxury??

Potable, constantly available water coming out of a tap is indeed a luxury in my book, not possessed by most in the world. And for most (not on wells, obviously) it is arriving due to citizens empowering the government.

Does your well-water catch fire?

[Danzig]

why the hell would my well catch fire?

[dellinger63]

Originally Posted by Danzig

why the hell would my well catch fire?

Because she read about it!

[Riot]

Originally Posted by Danzig

why the hell would my well catch fire?

Fracking.

My point is simply that getting all government out of our lives is going to make for shorter, more difficult, more hazardous lives. Government does do some very good things on our behalf.

It's interesting to listen to Ron Paul - he's very consistent in his thoughts, he's had years to reflect and hone them. However, listening to the son, Rand - well, although Rand thinks he's libertarian, and a strict anti-governmentalist, he's far more scattered than his father, even theocratic, even dictatorial, and remarkably inconsistent in his "anti-government" stance. The son is very reflective of alot of what I hear people espouse nowadays. Idealogic without much understanding.

[dellinger63]

Originally Posted by Riot

Fracking..

You realize that was fixed, like a movie. Funny you consider potable water a luxury but full-healthcare a right.

If in the course of administering healthcare they provide potable water is the care still a right or now a luxury?????

[Riot]

Originally Posted by dellinger63

You realize that was fixed, like a movie.

Do you realize that was not? Again: you, facts = oil, water

Funny you consider potable water a luxury but full-healthcare a right.

Wow. You really are not able to understand things in anything other than a superficial, simplistic, literal read, are you?

Let me speak on your terms: I would consider potable, cholera-free and drinkable fresh water a "right", too - with "right" meaning, not what you think (someone freeloading off you, as you are a constant, unchanging victim), but what a moral, rich, first-world country of course provides to all it's citizens.

[dellinger63]

Originally Posted by Riot

Do you realize that was not? Again: you, facts = oil, water.

And once again you're the duped SUCKER!

http://ncwatch.typepad.com/media/201...asland.html#tp

Originally Posted by dellinger63

You realize that was fixed, like a movie. Funny you consider potable water a luxury but full-healthcare a right.

If in the course of administering healthcare they provide potable water is the care still a right or now a luxury?????

All natural gas wells ruin the water table. The water table goes deep in the earth!

Pardon me, I've got an appointment for a rub and tug at the airport. For freedom!

[Riot]

Originally Posted by dellinger63

And once again you're the duped SUCKER!

I am not talking about the movie "Gasland". Geeshus effing cripes, you're stupid.