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Old 09-20-2011, 09:40 AM
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Yes he had some trouble, perhaps he deserved a better fate, I have viewed the race twice, for me Right One may have been more unlucky, had he gotten a cleaner trip he might have won the race. There were a few horses that were inconvenienced in the stretch, the horse with the best trip won. I can't say with certainty Dance and Dance would have won had he had a clean trip, a better result perhaps but IMO he was not the sure fire best horse Sunday.
Right One had a very good trip and was simply not good enough. What more needed to go Right One's way?
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Old 09-20-2011, 10:16 AM
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Right One had a very good trip and was simply not good enough. What more needed to go Right One's way?
Yes, he had a reasonably good trip, but he was buried behind horses and Gomez looked indecisive, he wanted to go outside, but changed course to the the inside as a last resort. The horse did run on and closed, no one is saying he is the best horse in the field, like Dahoss is with Dance and Dance, it's really splitting hairs, the horse that won the race got the best trip, that's all and given the margin of victory of the first 3 finishers, if Gomez got the split with Right One, I don't think it's unreasonable to say he could have won.
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Old 09-20-2011, 10:26 AM
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Yes, he had a reasonably good trip, but he was buried behind horses and Gomez looked indecisive, he wanted to go outside, but changed course to the the inside as a last resort. The horse did run on and closed, no one is saying he is the best horse in the field, like Dahoss is with Dance and Dance, it's really splitting hairs, the horse that won the race got the best trip, that's all and given the margin of victory of the first 3 finishers, if Gomez got the split with Right One, I don't think it's unreasonable to say he could have won.
What split didn't he get? Right One had a clear run for the final furlong, reached the front with roughly 40 yards to go and finished third. This, of course, was after he saved ground every inch of the way while horses like Side Glance and Dance and Dance raced wide (the latter having broken slowly as well).

There were a lot of poor trips in the race but Right One's certainly was not one of them.
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Old 09-20-2011, 10:38 AM
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What split didn't he get? Right One had a clear run for the final furlong, reached the front with roughly 40 yards to go and finished third. This, of course, was after he saved ground every inch of the way while horses like Side Glance and Dance and Dance raced wide (the latter having broken slowly as well).

There were a lot of poor trips in the race but Right One's certainly was not one of them.
I don't know how he would have ran if he got the split to CC's outside, perhaps he is more comfortably with a horse to his inside, he closed well from last at Belmont on the outside in the prep I recall, again I think we are splitting hairs here, but I do see your point, and accept it as a possibility. As a handicapper you have to look at all the points and make that assessment.
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