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01-05-2012, 10:53 AM
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2011 Eclipse Awards Finalists
2011 Eclipse Awards divisional finalists
2-year-old male Creative Cause Hansen Union Rags 2-year-old female Grace Hall My Miss Aurelia Stephanie’s Kitten 3-year-old male Animal Kingdom Caleb’s Posse Shackleford 3-year-old female It’s Tricky Plum Pretty Royal Delta Older male Acclamation Game On Dude Tizway Older female Awesome Maria Blind Luck Havre de Grace Male sprinter Amazombie Caleb’s Posse Regally Ready Female sprinter Hilda’s Passion Musical Romance Sassy Image Male turf Acclamation Cape Blanco St Nicholas Abbey Female turf Dubawi Heights Perfect Shirl Stacelita Steeplechase Black Jack Blues Decoy Daddy Tax Ruling Owner Midwest Thoroughbreds Ken and Sarah Ramsey Team Valor Breeders Adena Springs Brereton Jones Ken and Sarah Ramsey Trainer Bob Baffert Bill Mott Todd Pletcher Jockey Javier Castellano Ramon Dominguez John Velazquez Apprentice jockey Ryan Curatolo Kyle Frey Rosario Montanez
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01-05-2012, 11:18 AM
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2011 Eclipse Awards who should win
2-year-old male: Hansen 2-year-old female: My Miss Aurelia 3-year-old male: Animal Kingdom 3-year-old female: Royal Delta Older male: Acclamation Older female: Havre de Grace Male sprinter: Amazombie Female sprinter: I have no idea Male turf: Cape Blanco Female turf: Perfect Shirl Steeplechase: Black Jack Blues
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01-05-2012, 11:25 AM
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No one else deserves it. Period.
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01-05-2012, 12:21 PM
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What, no HOY finalists?
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01-05-2012, 12:32 PM
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Never Retreat isn't even a finalist in her division.
That's ridiculous.
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Just more nebulous nonsense from BBB
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01-05-2012, 01:53 PM
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Heretic!
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All ambitions are lawful except those which climb upward on the miseries or credulities of mankind. ~ Joseph Conrad A long habit of not thinking a thing wrong, gives it a superficial appearance of being right. ~ Thomas Paine Don't let anyone tell you that your dreams can't come true. They are only afraid that theirs won't and yours will. ~ Robert Evans
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01-05-2012, 05:34 PM
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01-07-2012, 12:16 PM
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(I'll reserve my comments for radio next week. Some voter/pundits really distinguished themselves in their discussion of this topic earlier today.)
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All ambitions are lawful except those which climb upward on the miseries or credulities of mankind. ~ Joseph Conrad A long habit of not thinking a thing wrong, gives it a superficial appearance of being right. ~ Thomas Paine Don't let anyone tell you that your dreams can't come true. They are only afraid that theirs won't and yours will. ~ Robert Evans
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01-07-2012, 12:51 PM
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I'll admit that I have never heard of Montanez. I've heard of Frey but couldn't honestly tell you what circuit he's on. Since I'm from the area, I have heard of Curatolo. I don't have a vote so it doesn't matter. But what percentage of voters could honestly tell you they are familiar with all three and their individual bodies of work during this past season? To give Montanez extra wins, placings and showings post bug is really unfair, especially when the stats are probably the biggest basis on a person's vote.
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Felix Unger talking to Oscar Madison: "Your horse could finish third by 20 lengths and they still pay you? And you have been losing money for all these years?!"
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01-07-2012, 01:31 PM
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01-07-2012, 06:06 PM
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Tax Ruling said to please remind you that he was the only one to win 2 G1s this year. Just sayin...
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01-07-2012, 06:51 PM
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I'm not saying it's an easy thing to win by any means but shouldn't it go to a professional?
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01-07-2012, 07:00 PM
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01-07-2012, 07:08 PM
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... and yes some small recognition? I absolutely agree and I know it's what keeps it going. The Eclipse Awards should be special though. They should mean something. It's the winner of the DRF contest... is that right? If it is they should have their own awards. They'd be special and mean something in their own right, no?
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01-08-2012, 12:55 AM
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Junior Alvarado was probably the best bug rider I've ever seen in my time following racing.
He was hands down the best jockey at Calder while he had the bug -- and rode excellently into Gulfstream despite having very few and weak mounts. The guy was having 5-win days at Calder and stealing races at prices. Didn't even come close against Talamo (I believe) in the voting. Talamo was a glorified sack of oats. Julien Laparoux had a big priced winner at Saratoga on the turf with the bug (maybe even triple bug) -- but I didn't follow his circuit much when he had it. I think the vast majority of his bug was spent cleaning up at Turfway. Bejarano absolutely ruled Turfway right before him -- not sure if he still had the bug or not though.
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01-08-2012, 08:19 AM
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APPRENTICE JOCKEY ECLIPSE WINNERS
2010 : Omar Moreno 2009 : Christian Santiago Reyes 2008 : Pascacio Lopez 2007 : Joe Talamo 2006 : Julien Leparoux 2005 : Emma-Jayne Wilson 2004 : Brian Hernandez, Jr. 2003 : Eddie Castro 2002 : Ryan Fogelsonger 2001 : Jeremy Rose 2000 : Tyler Baze 1999 : Ariel Smith 1998 : Shaun Bridgmohan 1997 : Roberto Rosado & Philip Teator (tie) 1996 : Neil Poznansky 1995 : Ramon B. Perez 1994 : Dale Beckner 1993 : Juan Umana 1992 : Rosemary Homeister 1991 : Mickey Walls 1990 : Mark Johnston 1989 : Michael J. Luzzi 1988 : Steve Capanas 1987 : Kent Desormeaux 1986 : Allen Stacy 1985 : Art Madrid, Jr. 1984 : Wesley Ward 1983 : Declan Murphy 1982 : Alberto Delgado 1981 : Richard Migliore 1980 : Frank Lovato, Jr. 1979 : Cash Asmussen 1978 : Ron Franklin 1977 : Steve Cauthen 1976 : George Martens 1975 : Jimmy Edwards 1974 : Chris McCarron 1973 : Steve Valdez 1972 : Thomas Wallis 1971 : Gene St. Leon
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All ambitions are lawful except those which climb upward on the miseries or credulities of mankind. ~ Joseph Conrad A long habit of not thinking a thing wrong, gives it a superficial appearance of being right. ~ Thomas Paine Don't let anyone tell you that your dreams can't come true. They are only afraid that theirs won't and yours will. ~ Robert Evans
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01-08-2012, 09:38 AM
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I don't remember Rosario with the bug...but he was exceptional not long after losing it.
To be unquestionably the best jock in all of Southern Cal in your third year is remarkable. Paco Lopez is very good. A lot of those guys going back to 1988 are brutally bad jockeys.
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