Obama Robbing Seniors to get Youth Vote

[pointman]

http://www.nationalreview.com/phi-be...-nathan-harden

Sickening. Is there no end to Obama's desperate attempts to save his failed Presidency? Now he has to try to garner the youth vote by pushing debt on seniors and future generations?

The "community organizer" is in way above his head and we are all going to pay for the mistake of the worst Presidency in the history of the US, even the most vulnerable.

[joeydb]

He's robbing everybody except the recipients. The providers - those working and getting taxed at higher rates - are screwed. Welcome to Socialism, Obama-style.

[bigrun]

The name of the game, remember, is not voter prevention, but voter suppression, i.e., bringing down the numbers. In the last presidential election, only 63 percent of eligible voters voted — and that was the best showing in 48 years. Clearly, Americans are not overly enthusiastic about performing this civic duty as it is.

Remember: demographic trends do not favor the Republican Party. As the Center for the Study of the American Electorate observed in a 2008 report, the GOP is either out of contention or seeing an erosion of support in New England, the mid-Atlantic, the West, the mountain states, the industrial Midwest, and even parts of the South. With its growing Latino population, even Texas may be lost to the party before too many years. “Within the next few decades,” says the report, “white Americans, the only demographic sub-group from which the GOP draws significant numbers of voters, will be in the minority.”

So, while the party posits these laws as a way of fighting voter fraud — a nearly non-existent problem — it takes little imagination to divine a more sinister intent. Sometimes, you don’t need imagination at all.

http://www.miamiherald.com/2012/07/1...-is-voter.html

[Danzig]

in my job, i deal with people from every portion of the populace here, from every spectrum from ages 16 to 95. not one of them, rich, poor or in between, hasn't had an i.d. i wonder if anyone here on this board knows anyone who hasn't got a form of identification, that is a u.s. citizen? i spoke with a guy a few weeks back, who doesn't have a u.s. drivers license-because he's not a citizen. he has an int'l d.l.
a question on the subject...don't people getting any form of assistance have to have i.d.? i wonder what the number of people who are citizens, without id, who vote actually is.

[3kings]

Originally Posted by Danzig

in my job, i deal with people from every portion of the populace here, from every spectrum from ages 16 to 95. not one of them, rich, poor or in between, hasn't had an i.d. i wonder if anyone here on this board knows anyone who hasn't got a form of identification, that is a u.s. citizen? i spoke with a guy a few weeks back, who doesn't have a u.s. drivers license-because he's not a citizen. he has an int'l d.l.
a question on the subject...don't people getting any form of assistance have to have i.d.? i wonder what the number of people who are citizens, without id, who vote actually is.

I agree with this. I used to manage a company that had nearly 1500 people in low level minimum wage positions. I had hundreds of applications a week and not once did a person not get a job because he/she could not produce a valid ID.

[jms62]

Originally Posted by 3kings

I agree with this. I used to manage a company that had nearly 1500 people in low level minimum wage positions. I had hundreds of applications a week and not once did a person not get a job because he/she could not produce a valid ID.

How did you verify the Id's were in fact Valid and not a forgery?

[Riot]

Actual numbers of currently registered voters, that do not meet restrictive Voter ID laws, and will be disenfranchised, are easily available in the news:

According to studies by voting rights group the Brennan Center, up to 10 percent of registered voters nationwide lack valid photo ID cards. Using that figure, the Institute for Southern Studies points out that Tennessee, with around 3.9 million registered voters, may be home to more than 380,000 citizens who wouldn't be able to vote if elections were held today.

Brennan Center for Justice estimates average of 10% of voters, varying by state, group (African-American, elderly, etc) don't have "voter ID"

http://www.brennancenter.org/content...dentification/

More than 758,000 registered voters in Pennsylvania do not have photo identification cards from the state Transportation Department, putting their voting rights at risk in the November election, according to data released Tuesday by state election officials.

The figures - representing 9.2 percent of the state's 8.2 million voters - are significantly higher than prior estimates by the Corbett administration. Secretary of the Commonwealth Carol Aichele has repeatedly said that 99 percent of Pennsylvania's voters already had the photo ID they will need at the polls in November.
http://articles.philly.com/2012-07-0...voter-id-cards

New laws in 10 states requiring voters to show photo identification will make it more difficult for millions of Americans to cast ballots and likely will drive down turnout among minorities, the poor and elderly, a study said Wednesday.

The Brennan Center for Justice at New York University Law School said that one in 10 Americans lack the necessary government-issued photo IDs that now are required in Alabama, Georgia, Indiana, Kansas, Mississippi, Pennsylvania, South Carolina, Tennessee, Texas and Wisconsin.

Most of the new laws were passed by Republican-controlled legislatures, and the voting blocs that analysts say the laws are most likely to affect typically favor Democrats.

About one-quarter of African Americans, 16 percent of Hispanics and 18 percent of Americans over age 65 do not have the type of ID that the voting laws require, the Brennan Center report said.

http://articles.chicagotribune.com/2...h-voter-turnou

A Wisconsin judge has found that the state's American Legislative Exchange Council-inspired voter ID restriction imposes an unconstitutional burden on the right to vote, writing that the law "tells more than 300,000 Wisconsin voters who do not now have an acceptable form of photo identification that they cannot vote unless they first obtain a photo ID card."

http://truth-out.org/news/item/10434...constitutional

[3kings]

Originally Posted by jms62

How did you verify the Id's were in fact Valid and not a forgery?

This was 20 years ago or so and only a couple of times did the ID not look legit. In those cases the people were not hired. On the application there was a box that was checked specifically asking if the ID's where issued by the state or government. The document had to be signed saying all info was true etc...... Photocopies of all submitted ID's where placed in the employee file. I believe, at least back then, that if there was an issue with falsification if you had used proper procedure the employer was not responcible. I never had an issue when I was employed there.

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by 3kings

This was 20 years ago or so and only a couple of times did the ID not look legit. In those cases the people were not hired. On the application there was a box that was checked specifically asking if the ID's where issued by the state or government. The document had to be signed saying all info was true etc...... Photocopies of all submitted ID's where placed in the employee file. I believe, at least back then, that if there was an issue with falsification if you had used proper procedure the employer was not responcible. I never had an issue when I was employed there.

yep, every new hire where i used to work, you had them fill out a packet of papers. state, fed witholding, and also the form that asked for at least two forms of i.d. typically used a d.l. and social security. it's not up to the employer to validate-it's just up to the employer to get the info. never had one come back as invalid.
i don't do hiring anymore, i'm in another form of employment now. but i see people every day, on a constant basis, and they cover every bit of the spectrum. never, ever have had someone say 'no id'.
to get just about any service under the sun, you must have i.d. i can't believe that people don't find voting as a valid reason to make sure someone is a citizen. to say it's a unfair burden is bs-there are too many things that require id in some form or fashion. i have no doubt that they could institute a 'hardship' type situation for those who truly can't go get an i.d.