Most Gr 1 wins by a female against males

Calzone Lord · #1 07-21-2012, 07:57 PM

Who holds the record for most American Grade 1 wins by a female against males? It obviously has to be a relatively low number, but I'm certain it's higher than 3 (which I know several different females have accomplished)

I know Black Caviar has 11 Group 1 wins against males -- but 10 of those came in Australia and grass sprints are a bigger deal there than everywhere else.

Miesque ran in 10 different Gr 1 races against males -- she won 7 of them with two seconds and a third. She only ran twice in America, the first time she won the Breeders Cup Mile by 3.5 lengths over 13 others. The second time she won the Breeders Cup Mile by 4 lengths over 11 others.

Goldikova has 9 Gr 1 wins against males -- but not quite as impressive an overall record as Miesque's.

cmorioles · #2 07-21-2012, 09:31 PM

Since races have only been graded since 1973, that is going to limit it a bunch.

Dahlia won three, and it is more impressive because they were in 1973, 74 and 76 and mixed in several G1 wins overseas against males as well.

All Along won three straight G1s after her Arc win, but one of those was in Canada so I guess she doesn't qualify.

Probably the most impressive brief run was April Run. She won the Turf Classic and the DC International by simply demolishing both fields, almost unheard of in G1 turf routes.

Calzone Lord · #3 07-21-2012, 09:48 PM

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Originally Posted by cmorioles

Since races have only been graded since 1973, that is going to limit it a bunch.

Yes -- they started grading in '73.

Some of the old-time mares won a lot of very important races.

Gallorette won the Met Mile, won the Brooklyn Handicap, Carter Handicap, and Whitney. Those are four of the five major handicaps in New York.

Esposa, the champion mare of 1937 and 1938 won about 10 major stakes on dirt against males.

Regret won her career debut in the Saratoga Special. Won 2nd time out in the Sanford. Won 3rd time out in the Hopeful. Won 4th time out in the Kentucky Derby off of a 9 month layoff. Won 5th time out in the Saranac. Five would be Graded Stakes wins against males in the first 5 starts of her career.

In her only two lifetime starts against females, Regret won an ALW race by 8 lengths going 5.5 furlongs for her five-year-old debut. And she won the Gazelle by 3 lengths under 129lbs.

Danzig · #4 07-21-2012, 09:55 PM

what did bewitch manage? i know she beat citation once, but i'm not sure how often she actually faced off vs males.

_ed_ · #5 07-21-2012, 10:35 PM

Sunline won 10 - Cox Plate (twice), Doncaster Handicap (twice, including once with a record weight for a mare), All-Aged Stakes (twice), Waikato Sprint (twice), Hong Kong Mile, Manikato Stakes. And she won three others against fillies and mares.

Calzone Lord · #6 07-22-2012, 12:50 AM

Imp's win in the 1899 Suburban Handicap in track record time was probably the first truly great performance where a female scored against males.

Imp made 50 starts in her 3-year-old season -- and more amazingly, she did it over a span of just 7.5 months because her first race was on April 1st and her last on November 15th.

The year she won the Suburban was her five-year-old season...and the Suburban was in a stretch where she raced 21 times in a span of 86 days. Basically, she ran once every four days for almost three full months.

On four different occasions during her career -- Imp raced on back-to-back days. She made 171 starts and raced till the age of 7.

Calzone Lord · #7 07-22-2012, 01:04 AM

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On four different occasions during her career -- Imp raced on back-to-back days. She made 171 starts and raced till the age of 7.

Here is Imp's trainer talking about all the crap he took for racing his horse so heavily and working her hard in between races.

Imagine if a horse today attempted to make 21 starts in 86 days -- or 4 times race on back-to-back days.

Kasept · #8 07-22-2012, 05:55 AM

Doug..

Pull up Gallorette.. Met, Whitney, Carter, 2 Wilsons, et al..

Calzone Lord · #9 07-22-2012, 08:08 AM

Gallorette was a very tough horse who ran against top class males about 40 or 50 times starting as early as her 2nd place finish in the Wood Memorial.

She was timber and a excellent horse. Esposa probably the closest thing in history to her post Imp.

Calzone Lord · #10 07-22-2012, 10:35 AM

Here is a race that included the mare Esposa and the legendary stallion Bull Lea.

Esposa won the Remsen at age 2 and finished 3rd in the Hopeful. She was 2nd in the 1935 Whitney. 2nd in the 1936 Whitney. Won the 1937 Whitney. And was 2nd in the 1938 Whitney. Four straight years of top 2 finishes in the Whitney.

Bull Lea is arguably the greatest stallion in racing history. He sired a record SEVEN different horses in the Hall of Fame. He sired 3 different Kentucky Derby winners. 1 Triple Crown winner (Citation) and the first filly to ever be voted Horse of the Year (Twilight Tear)

Esposa made 6 starts at the 1938 Saratoga meet -- and faced War Admiral 4 different times. After leaving Saratoga, she next won the Hawthorne Gold Cup before running into Seabiscuit.

Bull Lea wasn't even one of the 10 best male horses Esposa faced in her long career. He just sired numerous horses who happened to be a lot better than himself on the track.

Gate Dancer · #11 07-23-2012, 09:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Calzone Lord

Bull Lea is arguably the greatest stallion in racing history. He sired a record SEVEN different horses in the Hall of Fame. He sired 3 different Kentucky Derby winners. 1 Triple Crown winner (Citation) and the first filly to ever be voted Horse of the Year (Twilight Tear)

Bull Lea wasn't even one of the 10 best male horses Esposa faced in her long career. He just sired numerous horses who happened to be a lot better than himself on the track.

Also the sire of the dam of Gate Dancer (Sun Gate)

(I also love seeing those old mud marks in the Form)