I am starting to get nervous

[jms62]

Originally Posted by somerfrost

I wish that I felt differently but for the first time in 50 some years, I won't be following PSU football this year. Not because of that monster Sandusky, there are monsters everywhere...but because of their treatment of JoPa.

Seems to be more than 1 Monster here. Also leads me to question how squeeky clean Joe Pa's program was. If they can conceal child rape to protect the reputation of the program god knows what other things have been swept under the rug all these years. Total lack of institutional control at Penn State. Exactly what the NCAA "Death Penalty" was designed for. Shut them down for 2 years minimum

[Danzig]

just saw that paterno's statue was taken down. it's to be stored in a secure location.

[somerfrost]

Originally Posted by Danzig

just saw that paterno's statue was taken down. it's to be stored in a secure location.

That was a good decision, the statue was an affront to Sandusky's victims and polarizing the university.

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by somerfrost

That was a good decision, the statue was an affront to Sandusky's victims and polarizing the university.

i think it was the right that to do too. he was a revered figure because of football. but it seems that reverance was misplaced. look where it's gotten them. i hope all programs learn from this so that they don't make the same mistakes.

[Danzig]

just saw what the ncaa hit psu with. bobby bowden now the winningest coach-which is too bad, i don't care for him.wins vacated to '98, a big fine, no bowls for four years, loss of scholarships.
hopefully other programs will learn that people aren't bigger than the school, that just because a football program is successful, that doesn't mean things like this get ignored.

[bigrun]

Originally Posted by Danzig

just saw what the ncaa hit psu with. bobby bowden now the winningest coach-which is too bad, i don't care for him.wins vacated to '98, a big fine, no bowls for four years, loss of scholarships.
hopefully other programs will learn that people aren't bigger than the school, that just because a football program is successful, that doesn't mean things like this get ignored.

Don't remember such a severe penalty placed on schools in the past...but well deserved...what an ignominious end to the legend of JoePa, removing his statue...again well deserved...

[jms62]

Wish Joe Pa was still around to answer to the results of his actions/inactions.

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by bigrun

Don't remember such a severe penalty placed on schools in the past...but well deserved...what an ignominious end to the legend of JoePa, removing his statue...again well deserved...

yeah, that legend has turned to bitter ashes. like the adage says, the bigger they are, the harder they fall. perhaps sooner or later people will learn not to elevate people to such lofty heights. i mean, it was football. he got that big, and so many had to suffer, and for what? because he coached football. he, and others, sacrificed innocent children...for football, and all that comes with it. and now look what they've done. that program has suffered far more harm because of their attempts to hide it under the rug, than it would have had they done the right thing at the beginning.

all for g..d... football.

[bigrun]

[bigrun]

Editorial today's Richmond paper...



Penn State: Unhappy valley.



On Jan. 2, 1987, Penn State played Miami for college football's 1986 national championship. Many fans and commentators considered the game a matchup of good versus evil.

Penn State seemingly epitomized college athletics at its purest and at its best.That was then Miami apparently cultivated an outlaw reputation. Despite entering the game as underdogs, the Nittany Lions forced seven turnovers and won 14-10 — and claimed the crown. The thrilling contest set ratings records and transformed the Fiesta Bowl from a second-tier game into a so-called major bowl.

Early on Sunday morning Penn State removed a statue of coach Joe Paterno from its place of pride adjacent to the school's football stadium. On Monday morning the National Collegiate Athletic Association announced unprecedented sanctions against the Penn State football program.

The shame is absolute, and the lesson is clear: Do not lionize.

This editorial should not close without noting that the Miami Hurricanes remain under a cloud — although one not so troubling as the one over Penn State. There is no joy.