Domo Arigato & Sayonara! I'll Have Another to Japan..

[AlreadyHome]

Originally Posted by Kasept

[Bigsmc]

Originally Posted by -BT-

please tell me the Big Brown winner gave Glockenburg LLC and Olga Nowak their first winner this year? (fingers crossed, tbd crew)

-bt-

Exactly my first thought when I saw "Russia".

Don't sell Olga short, she has 10 wins in 2012 including the 7th at Suffolk yesterday. $42 winner.

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by Bigsmc

Exactly my first thought when I saw "Russia".

Don't sell Olga short, she has 10 wins in 2012 including the 7th at Suffolk yesterday. $42 winner.

3/5 Olga is a spy working directly for Putin...

No better place to hide in plain sight than Suffolk

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by scat daddy

Truly sad that we can not keep a horse of this caliber in the States for breeding. Best of luck IHA as you fly off to your new home....

Scat

that's part of the problem, we already have horses of his caliber in the states for breeding.

[Linny]

Though he doesn't have a glamorous stallion's pedigree, he hails from a good sireline and is bred to route yet won his debut at 5 1/2 early in his 2yo year. I like route bred horses that show speed.

I do wonder what (if any) interest there would have been had IHA won the TC. It's not the like Belmont is the kind of race that gets breeders on the phone to bloodstock agents.

Please go on and explain why.

Scat

[PatCummings]

Safe to say that Steve Haskin agrees with Scat Daddy and some others in an interesting discussion on today's show.

[parsixfarms]

Originally Posted by Linny

It's not the like Belmont is the kind of race that gets breeders on the phone to bloodstock agents.

For as much as a lot of people like to knock the Belmont as being antiquated, it has a much better record of producing sires than the Derby does. In the last twenty years, the roster of Belmont winners who became useful sires includes A. P. Indy, Lemon Drop Kid, Thunder Gulch, Empire Maker, Victory Gallop, Touch Gold, Afleet Alex, Birdstone, and Point Given. The "best" Derby-winning sire from the same time period would likely be Thunder Gulch. The best of the rest would be Street Sense, Smarty Jones, FuPeg, and Real Quiet.

[freddymo]

Originally Posted by parsixfarms

For as much as a lot of people like to knock the Belmont as being antiquated, it has a much better record of producing sires than the Derby does. In the last twenty years, the roster of Belmont winners who became useful sires includes A. P. Indy, Lemon Drop Kid, Thunder Gulch, Empire Maker, Victory Gallop, Touch Gold, Afleet Alex, Birdstone, and Point Given. The "best" Derby-winning sire from the same time period would likely be Thunder Gulch. The best of the rest would be Street Sense, Smarty Jones, FuPeg, and Real Quiet.

Point Given thru frogs
Victory Gallop Really?
Thunder friggin Gulch?
Afleet Alex is hardily the cats meow
Birdstone ........."Elizabeth I am coming"
Touch Gold wow

This is a list of train wrecks

[AlreadyHome]

Please go on and explain why freddymo

"This is a list of train wrecks"


numbers don't lie

[Merlinsky]

Speaking of Birdstone, for those who like to follow the select sales, the yearlings born of the broodmare bump following the success of his first crop at age 3 (including Mine That Bird's Kentucky Derby and Summer Bird's Belmont/Travers/JCGC/3yo Eclipse) are coming up this year. Probably won't do that well since freddy's convinced he's a bum. I bet the auctioneer will even announce it from the podium. "Ladies and gentleman, an addition to the catalog...The Freddymo Seal of Sire Disapproval is missing from the page of Hip #..."

[Linny]

Parsix is correct. All of those stallions have been very good/useful horses but none were horses being hollered for by breeders. The best of them, with the best breeding, Empire Maker is himself in Japan now.

If you held a share in any of those listed (VG, AA, TG) you'd be well ahead today on your investment. No, not has reached stratospheric levels but none has been a disaster either.

My point is that breeders are not looking to Belmont winners as stallion prospects.

[my miss storm cat]

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