2013 Hall of Fame Inductees

[Calzone Lord]

Originally Posted by PatCummings

All bets off on HOF inductees once Point Given got in having never faced older horses (and didn't win Triple Crown - which is essentially the only way in which you could avoid open races and still earn admission IMO).

Crack a history book, Pat.

Plenty of horses in the Hall Of Fame who defy your criteria. Start with Northern Dancer and Majestic Prince.

If you win the Preakness, Belmont, Haskell, and Travers, you're probably getting in.

He was a photo finish defeat by Macho Uno away from winning a 2-year-old championship in an above average crop juvenile crop.

It's amazing that people complain more about horses who were genuinely among the very best in a solid crop... than they do about jockeys who were usually about 6th or 7th best in the room at the track they rode at.

Ultimately, the sport is about the horses.

[PeteMugg]

Originally Posted by Calzone Lord

Crack a history book, Pat.

Plenty of horses in the Hall Of Fame who defy your criteria. Start with Northern Dancer and Majestic Prince.

If you win the Preakness, Belmont, Haskell, and Travers, you're probably getting in.

He was a photo finish defeat by Macho Uno away from winning a 2-year-old championship in an above average crop juvenile crop.

It's amazing that people complain more about horses who were genuinely among the very best in a solid crop... than they do about jockeys who were usually about 6th or 7th best in the room at the track they rode at.

Ultimately, the sport is about the horses.

True, but I'd guess a KD win carried a lot of weight for ND and MP.

[Alabama Stakes]

Originally Posted by PatCummings

All bets off on HOF inductees once Point Given got in having never faced older horses (and didn't win Triple Crown - which is essentially the only way in which you could avoid open races and still earn admission IMO).

maybe it had something to do with the way he drubbed the competition every time he was allowed to. (Attn Gary Stevens;rushing him into suicidal pace in the Derby). The older hosses wouldn't dare run against him.

Invasor was a Hoss of the Year, that probably got him in. Lure and House weren't...just sayin.

[Calzone Lord]

Originally Posted by PeteMugg

True, but I'd guess a KD win carried a lot of weight for ND and MP.

Bimelech never won a single stake race against older horses and didn't win the Kentucky Derby. There are others.

[horseofcourse]

I don't really get the opposition to Invasor. He won a triple crown on another continent, came to America and won 6 straight grade 1s on 6 different race tracks including the Bc Classic and Dubai world Cup. In today's world of shortened careers and less races, I don't think too many in the future will equal his resume.

[JJP]

You can debate Borel but no way should Perret get in. And as for Borel, he still got in done on the big stage three times, including on arguably the most unlikely Derby winner ever. He may have been 50-1 but should've been about 200-1.