Dead Rail on Kentucky Oaks day?

[Dahoss]

Originally Posted by tabs

Yeah I think so. The horse isn't balanced, watch her hind-end collapse like it did. I think if you spoke with her groom/trainer they might describe her as anxious, immature and a horse that takes time to get things. We're talking racehorses here so it's a matter of degrees.

Animals communicate things all the time. Why do you act so shocked?

I'm not going to play horse whisperer or pretend I know how she is because of a 15 second clip. You can, but I'm not interested in doing so. Of course she is anxious, they mention in the clip she is sensitive to noise.

I guess I found the fact you thought Donna Barton was irresponsible for walking the track and having an opinion odd....yet you are watching a 15 second clip and diagnosing a horses condition from your computer screen.

[tabs]

Originally Posted by Dahoss

I'm not going to play horse whisperer or pretend I know how she is because of a 15 second clip. You can, but I'm not interested in doing so. Of course she is anxious, they mention in the clip she is sensitive to noise.

I guess I found the fact you thought Donna Barton was irresponsible for walking the track and having an opinion odd....yet you are watching a 15 second clip and diagnosing a horses condition from your computer screen.

That's was kind of the point - Donna might have actually walked the track instead of examining the 20ft out from the rail at the finish line with her foot/pencil. At least that may have been more plausible.

"horse whisperer" that's funny! What I find odd is that you consider what Donna presented as fact and what I commented on as horse voodoo.

Do you think it takes more then 15 seconds for your wife to know your mood after you enter the house? People and animals can communicate without verbalizing. Animals are incapable of lying, what they show/tell you is truthful.

[Dahoss]

Originally Posted by tabs

That's was kind of the point - Donna might have actually walked the track instead of examining the 20ft out from the rail at the finish line with her foot/pencil. At least that may have been more plausible.

"horse whisperer" that's funny! What I find odd is that you consider what Donna presented as fact and what I commented on as horse voodoo.

Do you think it takes more then 15 seconds for your wife to know your mood after you enter the house? People and animals can communicate without verbalizing. Animals are incapable of lying, what they show/tell you is truthful.

I don't think what Barton presented was fact. Instead I mentioned (in the post you quoted) that it was her opinion. I happen to agree with it, but again, it is opinion, not fact.

I guess I wonder what your area of expertise is, in that you are able to diagnose how a horse is feeling based on a 15 second clip. You should call Mandella and let him know what he is doing wrong.

[JJP]

Originally Posted by 10 pnt move up

I don't, I believe other handicapping factors created the reasons for a certain type or place on the track a horse or horses were winning from. I don't play day to day like I used too but there was a time I did, and took trip and tried to identify biases, did this probably a good year or so in new York.

I know this flies in the face of many handicappers but its just something I have never identified watching races.

I guess its safe to assume you've never read Steve Davidowitz' book "Betting Thoroughbreds". You may want to check it out.

[10 pnt move up]

Originally Posted by JJP

I guess its safe to assume you've never read Steve Davidowitz' book "Betting Thoroughbreds". You may want to check it out.

I have read more and studied more than you will ever dream too, and I can tell you I know more about geology and geotechnical issues than you so don't be so presumptuous.

[JJP]

Originally Posted by 10 pnt move up

I have read more and studied more than you will ever dream too, and I can tell you I know more about geology and geotechnical issues than you so don't be so presumptuous.

Maybe you should be reading more about handicapping and wagering.

[10 pnt move up]

Originally Posted by JJP

Maybe you should be reading more about handicapping and wagering.

Its not done much for you so why should I bother?