komen for the cure ceo

[Danzig]

http://openchannel.nbcnews.com/_news...-canceled?lite


so many charities start out for a good reason...

and then it becomes a bloated shell of its former existence, with more and more of the donations going to support the charity, instead of being used for actual charitable purposes.
donate wisely.

[GenuineRisk]

Originally Posted by Danzig

http://openchannel.nbcnews.com/_news...-canceled?lite


so many charities start out for a good reason...

and then it becomes a bloated shell of its former existence, with more and more of the donations going to support the charity, instead of being used for actual charitable purposes.
donate wisely.

Susan G Komen could have kept the gravy train rolling forever if they could have kept the politics of their muckety mucks out of everything. But as soon as they ended that grant to Planned Parenthood, what did they think would happen? PP is exceptionally good at mobilizing, and has the advantage of having been used by millions of women for their health care, so it has a track record of providing services to a lot of poor and middle-class women. Who got pissed at the grant getting eliminated. And then all the skeletons started coming out of the closet.

I did the Race for the Cure once back in the mid-90s (my boyfriend's mom asked me to do it with her), but back then men weren't allowed to run and I remember thinking it was incredibly unfair that girls and women could run, regardless of their breast cancer status, but men and boys couldn't, unless they'd actually had breast cancer (rare, but happens). What, men can't be concerned about breast cancer too? First and last Race for the Cure I did. (I heard they later opened it up to men, too, but I was soured on the charity by then.)

[Danzig]

i always investigate a charity before giving. i think if more than a certain percentage of donations goes to things other than actual charitable works, they should lose their status!
yet another 'good intention' gone awry. it's too bad, because they accomplish a lot. but the ceo deserves that kind of money? c'mon. and they need that much overhead to operate?

and i agree, men should never have been barred. they get the disease, and they are affected by it.

[GenuineRisk]

I don't really think the Susan G Komen org accomplishes much besides raising money. In 2011, only 15 percent of their donations went towards research. Over 40 percent went towards "education."

http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/...8171KW20120208

I'm always wary of disease-related charities that spend the majority of their money on "raising awareness" or "education." It can easily become a cover for expensive trip and events that don't actually get any money to actual brick-and-mortar research facilities or health care clinics.

You're right that it's important to investigate charities before giving! As some of the articles that came out in the wake of the Susan G Komen thing said, people would be better off donating directly to a research facility or health care clinic itself; not to an intermediary.

[dellinger63]

Good news though, next year, as everyone will be required to have health coverage by law. Every dime can then go to research.

Federal funding for free clinics be gone. Maybe we will see some money back and all these claims of policies going up by 50-100% will be off set by the money saved shutting down the free/supplemented clinics/hospitals. Yea Right!

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by GenuineRisk

I don't really think the Susan G Komen org accomplishes much besides raising money. In 2011, only 15 percent of their donations went towards research. Over 40 percent went towards "education."

http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/...8171KW20120208

I'm always wary of disease-related charities that spend the majority of their money on "raising awareness" or "education." It can easily become a cover for expensive trip and events that don't actually get any money to actual brick-and-mortar research facilities or health care clinics.

You're right that it's important to investigate charities before giving! As some of the articles that came out in the wake of the Susan G Komen thing said, people would be better off donating directly to a research facility or health care clinic itself; not to an intermediary.

yeah, i remember reading about their awareness and 'education' funding back when they tried to pull the plug on the PP funding.

[Clip-Clop]

Borderline criminal enterprise. Racketeering for one. Suing small outfits trying to raise money for actual research or to help people pay medical bills for using the word "cure". They should shut them down and PETA too.

[timmgirvan]

FWIW: Red Cross spends 50% of donations on sustaining their charade! That is completely unacceptable!

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by timmgirvan

FWIW: Red Cross spends 50% of donations on sustaining their charade! That is completely unacceptable!

yeah, i don't give to them either. my uncle (a d.c. firefighter for years) warned me off of them some time ago.

[bigrun]

Years ago i usta contribute to the Disabled Vets program...Read an article in Readers Digest that said that 90% of every dollar goes to administration costs..almost zip to the Vets...

[Danzig]

http://www.charitynavigator.org/

[bigrun]

Many of the charities that poured money from donors into the bank accounts of for-profit solicitation companies have names that sound similar to respected national charities and typically have easy-to-support causes as part of their names, including "breast cancer," "firefighters" and "children's cancer."

Here are the 10 worst charities in America from the list compiled by the Center for Investigative Reporting and the Tampa Bay Times, along with the percentage of money raised that went to the supposed cause:

1.Kids Wish Network (2.5%)
2.Cancer Fund of America (0.9%)
3.Children's Wish Foundation International (10.8%)
4.American Breast Cancer Foundation (5.3%)
5.Firefighters Charitable Foundation (8.4%)
6.Breast Cancer Relief Foundation (2.2%)
7.International Union of Police Associations (0.5%)
8.National Veterans Service Fund (7.8%)
9.American Association of State Troopers (8.6%)
10.Children's Cancer Fund of America (5.3%)
The charities were ranked based on how much money they spent on solicitors. Kids Wish Network paid about $110 million of $128 million raised to fundraisers, the report said.


http://money.msn.com/saving-money-ti...orst-charities

[Danzig]

i read a few months back that many 'charities' hire telemarketers to do their fundraising, and the telemarketers get 50% of the take.
i know many years ago, i sent a donation to a charity that my mother had always supported. i got inundated with mailers after that, asking for more money. i'm sure the bulk of my donation went towards getting me pestered for more.

[GenuineRisk]

Originally Posted by Danzig

i read a few months back that many 'charities' hire telemarketers to do their fundraising, and the telemarketers get 50% of the take.
i know many years ago, i sent a donation to a charity that my mother had always supported. i got inundated with mailers after that, asking for more money. i'm sure the bulk of my donation went towards getting me pestered for more.

Not to mention that charities make a lot of money selling their mailing lists to other charities, which is why you get inundated with requests from other charities.

Mailing lists are worth a lot. Ron Paul recently tried to get supporters who were running ronpaul.com to give him the domain name. They offered him ronpaul.org, I believe, but said they should be paid $250,000 for .com, as it came with a mailing list of 170,000 that they had compiled over the years. He didn't want to pay, and complained to the United Nations, which told him to get the f*ck out.

I would have thought Ron Paul, of all people, would have respected the rules of the free market. But I guess the only part he really wanted was the "free" part.

So yeah, mailing lists. Worth a lot.

On the bright side, I went years without having to print my own return address labels, thanks to unsolicited requests from charities.

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by GenuineRisk

Not to mention that charities make a lot of money selling their mailing lists to other charities, which is why you get inundated with requests from other charities.

Mailing lists are worth a lot. Ron Paul recently tried to get supporters who were running ronpaul.com to give him the domain name. They offered him ronpaul.org, I believe, but said they should be paid $250,000 for .com, as it came with a mailing list of 170,000 that they had compiled over the years. He didn't want to pay, and complained to the United Nations, which told him to get the f*ck out.

I would have thought Ron Paul, of all people, would have respected the rules of the free market. But I guess the only part he really wanted was the "free" part.

So yeah, mailing lists. Worth a lot.

On the bright side, I went years without having to print my own return address labels, thanks to unsolicited requests from charities.

yeah, i get those labels too. didn't think about the mailing list part, that makes sense.
i went to a website several years ago to opt out of junk mail. that cut a lot of that.
tony and i went to an rv show a few months ago, and of course filled out slips for a 'chance to win ____'. a few days later, i got a call from a telemarketer. i asked how she got my number, it was from that show. lesson learned, i won't fill those out again.

[Crown@club]

Originally Posted by Danzig

yeah, i get those labels too. didn't think about the mailing list part, that makes sense.
i went to a website several years ago to opt out of junk mail. that cut a lot of that.
tony and i went to an rv show a few months ago, and of course filled out slips for a 'chance to win ____'. a few days later, i got a call from a telemarketer. i asked how she got my number, it was from that show. lesson learned, i won't fill those out again.

Yep....Been through that....

Wife and I filled out cards for a "Free Trip" at a kids show figuring it was controlled by the ownership of the show. We both received calls. It was a trip, but it wasn't free and had some other junk to go with it.......Just like you said....lesson learned.

[GenuineRisk]

Originally Posted by Crown@club

Yep....Been through that....

Wife and I filled out cards for a "Free Trip" at a kids show figuring it was controlled by the ownership of the show. We both received calls. It was a trip, but it wasn't free and had some other junk to go with it.......Just like you said....lesson learned.

My dad, who is the mildest pushover in everything else in his life, has a spine of steel when it comes to those "come hear a pitch for a time share/sales product/whatever and get a free gift!" things. He happily shows up, listens to the pitch, refuses, listens to the harder sell, refuses again, and keeps refusing until they give up and give him his restaurant gift card or whatever it is they're offering. The time share people HATE him. It's kind of hilarious.

[Crown@club]

Originally Posted by GenuineRisk

My dad, who is the mildest pushover in everything else in his life, has a spine of steel when it comes to those "come hear a pitch for a time share/sales product/whatever and get a free gift!" things. He happily shows up, listens to the pitch, refuses, listens to the harder sell, refuses again, and keeps refusing until they give up and give him his restaurant gift card or whatever it is they're offering. The time share people HATE him. It's kind of hilarious.

Didn't realize they last that long anymore.....if I run into something, I would always get you must have to do this to do that......false advertising at its finest.