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Old 11-19-2006, 06:16 PM
Rupert Pupkin Rupert Pupkin is offline
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Rupert,
Sit down cause I'm going tell you something, and I don't want you to fall down if you're standing up.
I agree with you.
Yes, I'll say it again, I agree with you.
That said, and I'm sure Mike and others will chime in, does anyone besides me see that poly plays differently at different tracks, in different climates?
Where it's cold (frosted) like Woodbine, it seperates.
Keenland is finer.
Hollywood, I honestly don't know much.
Sure, I'm all for the safety of the horses, but haven't some been hurt on it anyway?
Just my two pennies...poly in one place is comething completely different in other places.
DTS
Hollywood is a different surface from Keeneland. The track at Hollywood is made by a totally different company. Hollywood uses Cushion-track while Kenneland uses Poly-track, so there will obviously be a big difference between the two. I don't know all the ingredients of the two tracks, but I think the two tracks have different ingredients. They have many of the same ingredients but I don't think they are all the same.

There is even a third company that makes their own unique surface. Michael Dickinson's surface is going to be used at one of the tracks in Northern California. So you have the Dickinson surface, polytrack, and cushiontrack, all of which are different. Not only that, there will even be differences in tracks made by the same company, depending on the climate where they are installed.
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Old 11-19-2006, 06:21 PM
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Hollywood is a different surface from Keeneland. The track at Hollywood is made by a totally different company. Hollywood uses Cushion-track while Kenneland uses Poly-track, so there will obviously be a big difference between the two. I don't know all the ingredients of the two tracks, but I think the two tracks have different ingredients. They have many of the same ingredients but I don't think they are all the same.

There is even a third company that makes their own unique surface. Michael Dickinson's surface is going to be used at one of the tracks in Northern California. So you have the Dickinson surface, polytrack, and cushiontrack, all of which are different. Not only that, there will even be differences in tracks made by the same company, depending on the climate where they are installed.
Thanks for that.
Climate is the big factor IMHO.
All of us want to see horse run uninjured. The point I was attempting to make, that you explained, is that this surface isn't "equal" everywhere.
Some folks were sold a lot of promises.
Then came the problems.
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Old 11-19-2006, 06:32 PM
Rupert Pupkin Rupert Pupkin is offline
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Thanks for that.
Climate is the big factor IMHO.
All of us want to see horse run uninjured. The point I was attempting to make, that you explained, is that this surface isn't "equal" everywhere.
Some folks were sold a lot of promises.
Then came the problems.
I don't think that anyone thought that these artifical surfaces were a cure-all. We just thought that these surfaces were much safer than what we had before, and we believed that horses would stay much sounder. So far, so good. The horses are staying much sounder.
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Old 11-19-2006, 06:57 PM
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I thiught this was interesting. Polytrack's PowerPoint presentation to the CHRB....

http://polytrack.com/presentation/index.html
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Old 11-20-2006, 10:20 AM
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Hollywood is a different surface from Keeneland. The track at Hollywood is made by a totally different company. Hollywood uses Cushion-track while Kenneland uses Poly-track, so there will obviously be a big difference between the two. I don't know all the ingredients of the two tracks, but I think the two tracks have different ingredients. They have many of the same ingredients but I don't think they are all the same.

There is even a third company that makes their own unique surface. Michael Dickinson's surface is going to be used at one of the tracks in Northern California. So you have the Dickinson surface, polytrack, and cushiontrack, all of which are different. Not only that, there will even be differences in tracks made by the same company, depending on the climate where they are installed.
Wonder if it makes a differance if yous Firestone or Goodyear tires?
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Old 11-20-2006, 10:23 AM
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Wonder if it makes a differance if yous Firestone or Goodyear tires?
Quick Little Miss likes Firestones.
Imagine a rematch of the top two on dirt? How many ****ing lengths do you think Jump On In would win by?
How about a Notional-belgravia dirt rematch? Wanna tell me whos favored in that one?
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Old 11-20-2006, 10:40 AM
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Quick Little Miss likes Firestones.
Imagine a rematch of the top two on dirt? How many ****ing lengths do you think Jump On In would win by?
How about a Notional-belgravia dirt rematch? Wanna tell me whos favored in that one?
We'll see who accomplishes more between Belgravia and Notional. I think Belgravia is a better horse and will prove to be a better horse on any surface.
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