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Old 10-07-2012, 02:53 AM
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Lightbulb Omni bet (Launch pushed back)

Looking at the PP at Longchamp, the betting options were

WPS EX TRI SUPER and OMNI

Omni - Make two selections to occupy two of the first three places in a race. There are three winning combinations and if your selections both finish in the first three, in any order, you win.


I wish they had this instead of the really dumb Head 2 Head wager in the Breeeders Cup.
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Old 08-02-2013, 06:11 PM
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I don't know how accurate this is:


https://www.thorograph.com/phorum/re...?1,82024,82024

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Clueless Clowns in Albany grant conditional approval for Pick 5(15%takeout) and Show Quinella bets. Red tape delay puts start date to Belmont meet.
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Old 08-02-2013, 06:31 PM
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Can someone tell me what a show Quinella is?
Just a guess but it sounds like betting two horses to run at least 1st,2nd or
3rd.
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Old 08-02-2013, 06:47 PM
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Think this is the concept they floated known as the "Duet" in France. Offers pools for 1st-3rd & 2nd-3rd.

Also available in Australia: http://tab.custhelp.com/app/answers/...-is-a-duet-bet

The Duet requires you to correctly select two of the three placegetters in any order and will only be available on races that have 8 runners or more.

The Duet will pay three Dividends for the following combinations:
· 1st and 2nd
· 1st and 3rd
· 2nd and 3rd

Smarter ways to take a Duet:

Single Duet – is a great way to take a Duet if you believe that you have two runners that will definitely finish 1st, 2nd or 3rd in a race.

Box Duet – is a good way to take a Duet if you like 3 or more runners in a race as it will cover all combinations of 1st, 2nd and 3rd.
Standout Duet - is a bet where you combine the runner(s) you believe will finish in the first three placings (your standout(s)) with a number of runners to finish in the remaining placings. To win, your standout runner(s) must finish in the first, second or third position with any of your other runners filling at least one of the remaining positions. The cost of this standout Duet is $3 for a $1 investment, much cheaper than a 4 runner boxed Duet

However, for the best value why not place a FLEXI Duet bet which means you can box as many horses as you want and you can specify the total amount of money you wish to invest.
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Old 08-02-2013, 06:48 PM
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I'll let Andy tell you the great nickname he came up with for it...
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Old 08-02-2013, 07:00 PM
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I'll let Andy tell you the great nickname he came up with for it...
The Inexacta?
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Old 08-02-2013, 08:12 PM
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The Inexacta?
tears ran down my leg.
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Old 08-03-2013, 01:21 PM
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Can someone tell me what a show Quinella is?
Hollywood Park offered this bet from April 27-May 6, 1994. They called it the EZQ. It was cancelled after due to lack of interest and people being upset when they picked the first two finishers and only got a meager payout. It was replaced by the traditional quinella (1st and 2nd finishers in either order).
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Old 08-05-2013, 09:51 AM
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Hollywood Park offered this bet from April 27-May 6, 1994. They called it the EZQ. It was cancelled after due to lack of interest and people being upset when they picked the first two finishers and only got a meager payout. It was replaced by the traditional quinella (1st and 2nd finishers in either order).
I think Keeneland may had offered a similar type of wager called "The Omni" back in the day, too.
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Old 08-06-2013, 10:54 PM
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Think this is the concept they floated known as the "Duet" in France. Offers pools for 1st-3rd & 2nd-3rd.

Also available in Australia: http://tab.custhelp.com/app/answers/...-is-a-duet-bet

The Duet requires you to correctly select two of the three placegetters in any order and will only be available on races that have 8 runners or more.

The Duet will pay three Dividends for the following combinations:
· 1st and 2nd
· 1st and 3rd
· 2nd and 3rd

Smarter ways to take a Duet:

Single Duet – is a great way to take a Duet if you believe that you have two runners that will definitely finish 1st, 2nd or 3rd in a race.

Box Duet – is a good way to take a Duet if you like 3 or more runners in a race as it will cover all combinations of 1st, 2nd and 3rd.
Standout Duet - is a bet where you combine the runner(s) you believe will finish in the first three placings (your standout(s)) with a number of runners to finish in the remaining placings. To win, your standout runner(s) must finish in the first, second or third position with any of your other runners filling at least one of the remaining positions. The cost of this standout Duet is $3 for a $1 investment, much cheaper than a 4 runner boxed Duet

However, for the best value why not place a FLEXI Duet bet which means you can box as many horses as you want and you can specify the total amount of money you wish to invest.
It's called the "quinella place" in Hong Kong and the "place forecast" in Singapore. Fairly popular.
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GRENING: On Jan. 1, NYRA to introduce Omni wager where bettors must select 2 of 3 horses to finish in top 3. $1 minimum with 15% take-out.
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Old 12-15-2013, 02:50 PM
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GRENING: On Jan. 1, NYRA to introduce Omni wager where bettors must select 2 of 3 horses to finish in top 3. $1 minimum with 15% take-out.
What do you think?
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Old 12-15-2013, 02:54 PM
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What do you think?
New types of wagers are proven business builders. As the Grand Slam was designed as a gateway bet to P4's and the like, this has a similar feel for neophytes that get frustrated when the run 1-3 in exactas. Am sure it will find its' niche..
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Old 12-15-2013, 02:59 PM
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New types of wagers are proven business builders. As the Grand Slam was designed as a gateway bet to P4's and the like, this has a similar feel for neophytes that get frustrated when the run 1-3 in exactas. Am sure it will find its' niche..
When I am 2 deep in a P4 my horses usually run 2nd and 3rd maybe I can use this as hedge
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Old 12-15-2013, 06:45 PM
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I remember when So. Cal used to have parlay bets. You had to fill out those cards to give to a teller.
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Old 12-20-2013, 12:01 AM
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the inexacta is a frank costanza creation, it is the Bet for the RestofUs
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Old 12-20-2013, 01:18 AM
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I think Keeneland may had offered a similar type of wager called "The Omni" back in the day, too.

Larry Bird was throwing them in from everywhere one night at "The Omni" in Atlanta one night. the shots of the celtics bench after each basket was priceless. on a side note, The Omni was also the home of Bird's best quote. When asked if he had a prediction for game 7 in Boston against Dominique's Hawks after the celts had just won game 6 at the omni......."they had their chance!". now back to you're regularly scheduled thread.
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Old 12-21-2013, 01:17 PM
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The launch of The Omni will NOT be January 1.. Mutuel Department still working to determine kickoff.
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Old 12-23-2013, 08:28 AM
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Think this is the concept they floated known as the "Duet" in France. Offers pools for 1st-3rd & 2nd-3rd.

Also available in Australia: http://tab.custhelp.com/app/answers/...-is-a-duet-bet

The Duet requires you to correctly select two of the three placegetters in any order and will only be available on races that have 8 runners or more.

The Duet will pay three Dividends for the following combinations:
· 1st and 2nd
· 1st and 3rd
· 2nd and 3rd

Smarter ways to take a Duet:

Single Duet – is a great way to take a Duet if you believe that you have two runners that will definitely finish 1st, 2nd or 3rd in a race.

Box Duet – is a good way to take a Duet if you like 3 or more runners in a race as it will cover all combinations of 1st, 2nd and 3rd.
Standout Duet - is a bet where you combine the runner(s) you believe will finish in the first three placings (your standout(s)) with a number of runners to finish in the remaining placings. To win, your standout runner(s) must finish in the first, second or third position with any of your other runners filling at least one of the remaining positions. The cost of this standout Duet is $3 for a $1 investment, much cheaper than a 4 runner boxed Duet

However, for the best value why not place a FLEXI Duet bet which means you can box as many horses as you want and you can specify the total amount of money you wish to invest.
C. X. Wong mentions the bet in his "Precision" book. It is available in Hong Kong as well and that was the first I heard of it.
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