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Old 01-26-2014, 09:59 AM
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Conte seems like a very likable guy.
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Old 01-26-2014, 10:09 AM
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teller tells the guy good luck......I thought you only got the kiss of death from local telllers at Saratoga.
That teller is actually a teller at NYRA for 40 years.....
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Old 01-26-2014, 01:36 PM
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That teller is actually a teller at NYRA for 40 years.....
I worked at NYRA from 1978-1991; I thought he looked familiar, but don't remember his name.
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Old 01-28-2014, 11:34 PM
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Much better than SOU. Getting to like the east coast crew, but Helmers is what i call an E A (egotistical ******* ), mugging ,playing to the camera and trying to be joe cool. Liked Beychok as down to earth nice guy, very likeable and Conte reminds me of a departed mentor who knew hiss horses and liked to entertain. Better episode this time around.
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Old 01-29-2014, 01:17 AM
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I worked at NYRA from 1978-1991; I thought he looked familiar, but don't remember his name.
Sal. I've known him for years. Very nice man.
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Christian Hellmers
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Christian’s father introduced him to the races at Del Mar after his family moved down from Long Beach. He has loved analyzing this game since the age of fourteen and still does to this day.

He finished first in the Santa Anita Handicapping Tournament in 1998 as part of the twenty something "Pick6Boys" with Nissan Gabbay and Kevin McFarland for a $24,000 payout. He then finished second in the 2011 and 2012 Breeders' Cup Betting Challenge earning over $121,000 and over $150,000 after starting with a bankroll of $7500.

Christian like to live in the moment, run half/full marathons, eat healthy animal friendly vegan food, love the "Burning Man" art festival and lifestyle, spin a fire staff, adore the ocean, use muscle-testing often and respect David Hawkins' work, coach people on alternative health, nutrition, dating and relationships. He lives with six other brilliant people in a mansion known as the "The Passion Mansion". He has traveled around the world as a Director for Betfair attempting to legalize exchange wagering but came up empty yet led the TVG acquisition for Betfair Limited. By teaming up with fellow UCLA engineering students he was able to disrupt the music industry's business model at internet start-up Scour.net<http://scour.net/>. He was involved with multiple startups, i.e. DivXNetworks et al and worked alongside brilliant young technology minds.

Christian would build a symbolic piece of art for a Burning Man festival and would donate 5-10% to retired horse programs, explore ways to raise consciousness in health for animals and the planet, as well as help out my family and friends and local artists in need.

Some bio, that.

I'm a little surprised Betfair decided on someone so off the wall, to pitch betting exchanges with.
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Old 01-30-2014, 04:04 PM
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I love the last paragraph of that bio.
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Old 01-31-2014, 12:46 AM
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I'll be at Coachella the same weekend as the Santa Anita Derby. Wonder how much Hellmers actually cares about that race or if he might be at the fest lol? Although Burning Man is way different, Coachella is an hour or so down the I-10
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Old 01-31-2014, 09:41 AM
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Default Hellmers and xchange wagering at monmouth

Monmouth Park and New Jersey horsemen are on to something big. Really big. If things go as planned this spring, the 2014 New Jersey Thoroughbred horse racing season could catapult the venerable New Jersey track into the annals of American horse racing history.

The track plans to offer a revolutionary form of wagering of European origin that may change the face of horse racing in the United States forever. It’s called exchange wagering and it is termed by professional horseplayer Christian Hellmers as nothing less than “euphoric.”

http://www.examiner.com/article/hors...-monmouth-park
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Old 02-01-2014, 10:59 AM
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Hellmers can be taken more seriously
when he doesn't wear that stupid headband
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Old 02-01-2014, 11:11 AM
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Hellmers can be taken more seriously
when he doesn't wear that stupid headband
His record alone should make you take him seriously. He is different California Metaphysical type guy but we all have our quirks.
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Old 02-01-2014, 11:42 AM
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His record alone should make you take him seriously. He is different California Metaphysical type guy but we all have our quirks.
Yeah, I know.
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Old 02-01-2014, 08:17 PM
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Tues nite staple, NCIS,NCIS LA and Person of Interest..I get two CBS stations, one out of NC and the other VA and during basketball season if a NC team is playing VA team BOTH stations carry the bb game and i get shutout..
Late last nite i watched a little of horseplayers and late this afternoon it was on again with same episode..
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Old 02-03-2014, 08:05 AM
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His record alone should make you take him seriously. He is different California Metaphysical type guy but we all have our quirks.
Any chance that metaphysical stuff is a put-on? I would think he would lean more on the number crunching side of what he does than "checking in with his subconscious"...
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Old 02-04-2014, 12:27 PM
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Different strokes for different folks.

From: christianhellmers.com

This is the first step to you becoming a sharper horseplayer...

Betting is not just risking money, it's you putting your mind to the test of Truth.

Here are 3 concepts to consider...

Treat your betting mindset as if you are an Olympic athlete

* Be willing to be great and make sacrifices to win (ie working hard)

* Take the little details seriously and examine every horse carefully, inside and out, turn the race over in your mind several times to become one with it ;-)

* Limit distractions from noise to people to alcohol to false prophets

* Develop a routine of best practices that work based on your preferences to keep you at your highest focused self ie listening to music, drinking water, tracking your decisions

Be prepared far in advance

* Do not wait until the day of the races to begin your analysis

* Analyze and take notes in a way that you can revisit at a later time for post mordum

* Increase concentration by eating well the night before and the day, blue green algae, vegetables, foods high in Omega 3/6 will increase brain function, plus liquid B vitamins

* Map out your betting strategy and scenarios hours before each race

* Hire someone to help you manage your betting software if you don't know how to write code

* Study the patterns that lead to your highest ROI

Accurately translate and express your brain on paper

* Ascertain the probabilities of the horses you intend to wager upon and to bet against

* Locate your key calls in terms of A, B, C, and D in each race

* Based on your expected value of a race, assess whether to bet or pass; if the value is average, then consider saving your bet for a more lucrative opportunity

* Determine the best way to distribute your mindset on paper ie 50% on A bet call in a race, 25% on B call in a race, 20% on C call in a race, 10% of betting dollars on a D call in a race

* Set your targeted payouts in advance based on your bankroll and wager to hit your number OR bet based on using the Kelly equation IF you can accurately predict your probabilities

* In a tournament, bet as if your life depends on it and swing for the fences on your strongest opinion with the greatest value!

* Smile and give thanks after you win or lose to allow yourself to be in harmony with the moment!

Bless up,

Christian
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Old 02-04-2014, 12:43 PM
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Sounds like a lot of smart stuff to me.

Underestimating Christian Hellmers because you think he's a little goofy is a mistake. We're all a little goofy. Few of us are as smart and knowledgeable as he is.
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Totally agree Andy!

The guy doesn't have his own website and spot on Horseplayers because he is a no talent.

I find it funny people can't get past the headband. My impression is he comes to the track and a contest fully prepared.
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Old 02-04-2014, 10:46 PM
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So we get good race calls from Durkin and Collmus but a voice over for Denman. Wonder if he didnt give them the right or whomever owns the copyright, to use it
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Old 02-05-2014, 01:06 AM
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Classic scene with Arlene Conte stirring the gravy and preparing the meatballs. Priceless!!
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Old 02-05-2014, 06:59 AM
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Any chance that metaphysical stuff is a put-on? I would think he would lean more on the number crunching side of what he does than "checking in with his subconscious"...
I don't think it is a put on but I agree with you that it factors zero in his handicapping. Makes for good TV though.
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