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Old 09-01-2006, 10:40 AM
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Does anyone know anything about Happy Ticket? I havent seen her since the race at Churchill?

she raced at Del Mar about a month ago...finished 2nd.
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Old 09-01-2006, 10:42 AM
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she raced at Del Mar about a month ago...finished 2nd.
Thanks Kev. I appreciate the info. I should know to come to you for any info on a horse. You have to be the king of stable mail.
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Old 09-01-2006, 10:56 AM
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Thanks Kev. I appreciate the info. I should know to come to you for any info on a horse. You have to be the king of stable mail.

No prob....glad to help.

Stable mail is getting ready to have horse #55 added to the watch list thanks to a tip from a board member.
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Old 09-01-2006, 10:56 AM
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Euro give it up. We were having a debate and you tried to play the "I'm an owner so I know about these things card". Newsflash, owning part of a claimer does not make you an all knowing authority on everything equine, as evidenced from your earlier contention that they would be afraid to run the filly lest she breakdown and in your WORDS "but she is worth nothing if she injures herself and is put down. If it is locked in, then why even take the chance. That is my point."
Now, obviously you don't know a damn thing about graded stakes horses and their values. You said if she injures herself and is put down she is worth nothing.
Obviously you mispoke.
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Old 09-01-2006, 10:57 AM
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No prob....glad to help.

Stable mail is getting ready to have horse #55 added to the watch list thanks to a tip from a board member.
Have to keep us informed on horse #55 Kev. How is your back?
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Old 09-01-2006, 11:00 AM
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I never told you guys this but I won 10% of Butterface (I guess I own half her right front leg). Dont let it get around, I dont want to be asked for my autograph and equine advice. And I am really trying not to let this go to my head. Really I am.
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Old 09-01-2006, 11:01 AM
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Euro give it up. We were having a debate and you tried to play the "I'm an owner so I know about these things card". Newsflash, owning part of a claimer does not make you an all knowing authority on everything equine, as evidenced from your earlier contention that they would be afraid to run the filly lest she breakdown and in your WORDS "but she is worth nothing if she injures herself and is put down. If it is locked in, then why even take the chance. That is my point."
Now, obviously you don't know a damn thing about graded stakes horses and their values. You said if she injures herself and is put down she is worth nothing.
Obviously you mispoke.
Lord Oracle. I know about the insurance, but what she is prob insured for and what she can go for at the auction is different. She is prob insured for 1.5 to 2.5. She will go for double or more than that in an auction. Obviously you dont know anything about the open market. Oh, and being a agent of one graded horse doesnt make you the authority on everything that is equine. See Oracle, people like you take from the game and never put anything back into it. That is what we mid-west people call a leach.
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Old 09-01-2006, 11:01 AM
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Oracle, you dont pay the bills. I dont care what you bought. Being an agent and actually having the financial reponsibility of paying the bills is two different things. Why dont you own any part of a horse?
Im thinking about buying into a partnership for a 5k claimer. Thus , that shows Im more in tune to the ins and outs of ownership than Ora. He had an explaination for all of your reasons for not running and you still wouldnt admit your error.
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Old 09-01-2006, 11:01 AM
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I never told you guys this but I won 10% of Butterface (I guess I own half her right front leg). Dont let it get around, I dont want to be asked for my autograph and equine advice. And I am really trying not to let this go to my head. Really I am.
Well that is freaking awesome Gander.
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Old 09-01-2006, 11:08 AM
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Im thinking about buying into a partnership for a 5k claimer. Thus , that shows Im more in tune to the ins and outs of ownership than Ora. He had an explaination for all of your reasons for not running and you still wouldnt admit your error.
It isnt an error. Lord, I just have a feeling that she wont run. Again, she will go for more than what she is insured. I know the value is locked in, but why take the risk is my point. She is going to go for prob 4.5mm or more. I dont feel that run in the BCC is going to increase her value compared to the risk. That is all I am saying. But we will see.
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Old 09-01-2006, 11:09 AM
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Lord Oracle. I know about the insurance, but what she is prob insured for and what she can go for at the auction is different. She is prob insured for 1.5 to 2.5. She will go for double or more than that in an auction. Obviously you dont know anything about the open market. Oh, and being a agent of one graded horse doesnt make you the authority on everything that is equine. See Oracle, people like you take from the game and never put anything back into it. That is what we mid-west people call a leach.
Thats pretty funny. You think shes only insured for that amount? Dream on. Owners of horses like that tend to insure at the highest possible appraisal that they can get. Lans educated me a little bit about this, having owned two grade one winners himself. I found it fascinating.
Just remember when she runs in the Cup I'm gonna pull this thread and jam it in your face.
As far as not putting anything back into the game, you obviosusly don't know a thing about the game, and your ignorance shows with each passing post.
Most people who sell a horse are thrilled to sell it. Thats why they are doing it. Most people who buy one, especially privately, define a goal but lack the time or resources to attempt it themselves. Its why they outsource to people who they trust to do it. I'd think that Sandy Robbins would say I've put a tremendous amount back into his game with that purchase. Shes appraised at ten times what they paid for her and shes already won that back and given them the thrill of winning at the highest level.
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Old 09-01-2006, 11:13 AM
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Have to keep us informed on horse #55 Kev. How is your back?
Back and legs feel WONDERFUL....so nice to live and walk pain free.

Thanks for asking.
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Old 09-01-2006, 11:15 AM
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Thats pretty funny. You think shes only insured for that amount? Dream on. Owners of horses like that tend to insure at the highest possible appraisal that they can get. Lans educated me a little bit about this, having owned two grade one winners himself. I found it fascinating.
Just remember when she runs in the Cup I'm gonna pull this thread and jam it in your face.
As far as not putting anything back into the game, you obviosusly don't know a thing about the game, and your ignorance shows with each passing post.
Most people who sell a horse are thrilled to sell it. Thats why they are doing it. Most people who buy one, especially privately, define a goal but lack the time or resources to attempt it themselves. Its why they outsource to people who they trust to do it. I'd think that Sandy Robbins would say I've put a tremendous amount back into his game with that purchase. Shes appraised at ten times what they paid for her and shes already won that back and given them the thrill of winning at the highest level.
Well what dont you enlighten me and tell me how much she is insured for? And I welcome the jamming. If she races then i am wrong. It is just a feeling is all.
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Old 09-01-2006, 11:16 AM
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Back and legs feel WONDERFUL....so nice to live and walk pain free.

Thanks for asking.
I could only imagine. A guy at work just had back surgery. The man is 54 years old and was in so much pain. I have no idea what was wrong, something about something pressing on a nerve. But he seems to be doing much better. Good to hear you are pain free. That has to be nice.
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Old 09-01-2006, 11:16 AM
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Well what dont you enlighten me and tell me how much she is insured for? And I welcome the jamming. If she races then i am wrong. It is just a feeling is all.
I don't feel its my place to say that on here. Thats not anyone's business but the owners. Hoep you understand I am not copping out, but thats just how I feel.
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Old 09-01-2006, 11:24 AM
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Neither, I'm going with Pine Island.

i'm leaning in that direction myself!! like that filly a LOT.
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Old 09-01-2006, 11:26 AM
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I have heard this all before. I would not surprised that she doesnt run at all. I would be more surprised if she did run. I give it a 60-40 chance that she doesnt run.
based on what??? she's on a tremendous streak, beating all comers, the sale won't keep her out...so what in your mind will?
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Old 09-01-2006, 11:26 AM
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Ora, this thread proves you need to find a horse or two for Euro and help him establish the value. Or maybe you dont deal with someone that knows it all and want admit an error.
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Old 09-01-2006, 11:27 AM
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I know the value is locked in, but she is worth nothing if she injures herself and is put down. If it is locked in, then why even take the chance. That is my point. I don't care what Pletcher says or does. We all know you cant believe a trainer in this game. I still think it is 60-40 she doesnt race. And she will go for more than $2.5.
if she injures herself and gets put down, no sale...not enough reason not to run, that's what insurance is for! certainly that line of thinking didn't keep ashado out of the sale.
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Old 09-01-2006, 11:27 AM
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based on what??? she's on a tremendous streak, beating all comers, the sale won't keep her out...so what in your mind will?
Again, it is a feeling. We will just wait and see.
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