Super Tuesday

[Riot]

Originally Posted by Antitrust32

i don't know whether to laugh or cry after reading this



I guess laugh, because I find it hilarious how some people can LOVE Obama and absolutely HATE Bush when they have had the EXACT SAME Presidentcies!

Oh, I laugh and/or cry when I read your political assessements, too

No, not "exactly" the same, but yes, certainly some things Obama is the same (or even more "Bushian") than Bush.

Not all people look at politics as starkly black and white, "my team vs your team" manner. That's what is destroying this country, and why our current Congress is useless. Too much polarization.

There's plenty I don't like about Obama, but far more I do like - a lot. But to think he's the same as Santorum, Gingrich or Romney is not true in the least. All three of those guys have "typical GOP" financial plans and platforms that would repeat the Bush financial disaster, throwing our country into massively deeper debt.

Santorum is just a religious zealot who has no place in the current political discourse (he couldn't even get on the ballot in some Ohio counties, he's so disorganized in his "run for President"): see Howard Finemans "The Republican Party is the first American Religious Party" editorial of a day or so ago.

Originally Posted by Riot

Obama is turning out to be a very good president.

Obviously the vibrator manufacturers are doing well.

Much better foreign policy than Bush, has done much to restore our respect in the world. Pulled us out of Iraq, killed bin Laden, trying to keep the hawks from trying to blow up the middle east again.

It's been fantastic for the Muslim Brotherhood, Al Qaeda, etc. Egypt and Libya are doing grate! Why just today...
http://rt.com/news/libya-split-cyrenaica-autonomy-971/

Iraq is free of our military. Just don't tell anyone the occupation has gone private. Derp!
http://www.npr.org/2011/05/17/136357...ctors-to-enter

Has done the most for veterans of any president in the past 50 years (education, homelessness, PTS, etc)

Yeah and everyone knows the military has been treated marvelously the past 50 years with false flag attacks like the Gulf of Tonkin, Iran-Contra, etc.

Why Jesus? Why have you made such a stupid cu.nt of a person?

Has shifted the tide to get us in more favorable trading positions relative to China.

Oh thank the Lord! Maybe they'll stop stealing our products now? Can I has a real iPod says teh Chinese boy?

God damn you're a fuc.king colossal idiot.

Changed energy policy, our oil importation is lowest ever (43% from foreign sources), we now net export oil.

Well that totally makes 3.75 cent gas ok in the DEAD OF FU.CKING WINTER, YOU DUMB SLUT.

Saved the auto industry, and as a condition of bailout cars will be getting 50+ mpg within a few years, cutting every single families gasoline expenditures in half within 10 years.

Chevy Volt rules!

Finally passed the Republican health care plan from the 1990's (improved health care something every President has tried to obtain for American people since before Nixon) which will lead within about 5 years to a strong single payer, decreased costs for everyone, better care and access.

Pure propaganda and utter horsesh.it not worth debunking.

Has extended Medicare lifetime by 10 years with healthcare plan, too. Saved us billions.

Medicare Supplement premiums skyrocketing. Seniors stuck with plans before the modernization act receiving annual increases between 10% to 30% and can't get on a modernized plan due to underwriting.
Two years of no raise on their social security checks.
Brilliant!

Got rid of No Child Left Behind, trying to renew our tattered school system failures and get us back up in the top twenty of educated countries in the world. Has saved us billions in government costs with reforms to college education loans. Has the only budget plan, out of all current presidential candidates, that actually decreases our debt over time.

Yet Americans still suck at education on a phenomenally epic level and still will in 10 years.



You are the worst person on Earth.

Look how popular we are with teh world!!!

http://www.worldpublicopinion.org/pi...ons_bt/680.php

5 percentage points higher than China! We're awesome!! A utopia of DELUSION!

[Riot]

Originally Posted by Coach Pants

Obviously the vibrator manufacturers are doing well.

^^

[geeker2]

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OBAMA 2012







photo by coach

[bigrun]

Originally Posted by geeker2

Attachment 1933


OBAMA 2012







photo by coach

....taking a dump on his repuke rivals...

Obama 2012
"Managing the Decline"

[Antitrust32]

Originally Posted by Riot

Oh, I laugh and/or cry when I read your political assessements, too

No, not "exactly" the same, but yes, certainly some things Obama is the same (or even more "Bushian") than Bush.

Not all people look at politics as starkly black and white, "my team vs your team" manner. That's what is destroying this country, and why our current Congress is useless. Too much polarization.

There's plenty I don't like about Obama, but far more I do like - a lot. But to think he's the same as Santorum, Gingrich or Romney is not true in the least. All three of those guys have "typical GOP" financial plans and platforms that would repeat the Bush financial disaster, throwing our country into massively deeper debt.

Santorum is just a religious zealot who has no place in the current political discourse (he couldn't even get on the ballot in some Ohio counties, he's so disorganized in his "run for President"): see Howard Finemans "The Republican Party is the first American Religious Party" editorial of a day or so ago.

Thats again funny.. because, outside of maybe Joey you are the biggest home team supporter out there. What color are your glasses?

Our country is in the same crappy state as it was when Bush left. Worse, actually because we are much more in debt.

I just don't understand how you believe half the things you say.

At least there are plenty of objective people on this board, who understand that Dems AND repubs do not have America's best interest in mind.

I have conservative political leanings, but I barely support a party. Both parties make me gag.

Go to the bottom line. The one with unfunded liabilities.

http://www.usdebtclock.org/

Spin your way out of that one, Broom-hilda. Keep pushing for more government, you complete and utter imbecile.

Lower than amoeba.

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I am not one to write letters to the editor but if i did it would be pretty much word for word on this one...

George W. Bush — worst president in our lifetime

Editor, Times-Dispatch:

In response to Calvin's letter, "Obama's re-election is larger concern than spills": Was Calvin not alive during the administration of George W. Bush? His presidency was many times more dangerous than Obama's.

Bush gave us two unnecessary wars, an unfunded drug program (remember the doughnut hole?), loss of liberty (the so-called Patriot Act), torture (waterboarding and a vice president who said it was OK), and he topped it all off with a tax cut for the wealthy that left us unable to pay our bills. He managed to take a multi-billion-dollar surplus and turn it into a multi-trillion-dollar deficit. Then he handed the whole mess to President Obama to fix.

While I go back to Truman, one has only to go back only four years to find the worst and most dangerous president we have had in our lifetime: George W. Bush.

Obama can take that ignoble title after his 2nd term is over but only if he starts an unnecessary war...

Debt in 2016. I don't see anything of note being balanced. Guess you'll just have to take pond scums word for it.

http://www.usdebtclock.org/cbo-omb-g...estimates.html

[Antitrust32]

Originally Posted by Coach Pants

Go to the bottom line. The one with unfunded liabilities.

http://www.usdebtclock.org/

Spin your way out of that one, Broom-hilda. Keep pushing for more government, you complete and utter imbecile.

Lower than amoeba.

my yearly pay was just spent in two seconds.

[Antitrust32]

check that.

I wish I made what the govn't spends in two seconds.

[Antitrust32]

the US Unfunded Liabilities line goes up 1 million dollars every 8 seconds.


ok this chart is officially depressing me.

I'm depressed being duped into refuting this stupid piece of s.hit. She ruins this sub-forum with her brain-dead tripe.

[Antitrust32]

She's certainly special.

"Obama is turning out to be a very good Bracket filler.. eh, I meant President"

Yeah it's not like he bailed the banks out and gave immunity for all of their crimes. And we all know the central banks worldwide are no longer printing money at an alarming rate since Obama took office.

She is an imbecile. Plain and simple.

[Riot]

Originally Posted by Antitrust32

Thats again funny.. because, outside of maybe Joey you are the biggest home team supporter out there. What color are your glasses?

Unlike Joey's, mine are clear. Yes, I voted for Obama, because McCain chose Palin as a VP. Obama has turned out far better than I expected. I'm quite happy with him overall, and will definitely vote for him again this fall.

More important are the downticket races - that's the only thing that can correct this country and the horror that is the current Congress. That's where my money and support will be going nationally.

[Riot]

Just announced: Gingrich has won Georgia. Romney leading in VA (only against Ron Paul, other candidates were not organized enough to get on ballot - duh) and Romney leading in Vermont.

Nate Silver 538 Predictions with comment from Jed Lewison:

Ultimately, Super Tuesday is like any other primary night: each campaign's goal is to amass delegates. By that metric, Mitt Romney appears on track to have a fairly good night. According to Nate Silver's latest projection, the most likely outcome tonight is that Mitt Romney ends up with 224 delegates on the night—51 percent of those available, followed by Newt Gingrich with 20 percent and Rick Santorum with 17 percent, and the rest going to Ron Paul and uncommitted.

That would be a good result for Mitt Romney's primary campaign, but mostly because the rest of the field is divided. In 2008, as Nate Silver points out, John McCain actually did much better than Romney's projected 51 percent, taking just shy of 63 percent of the delegates in play.

That suggests that while Romney is likely to be the clear winner tonight, he's going to need something closer to John McCain-type numbers to be able to claim he's effectively ended the campaign. It might be obvious to uninvolved observers that things are over if he's at 51 percent, but his rivals are unlikely to think things are over until he gets himself on track to start taking a super majority of delegates at stake.