All conventional wisdom may be lost...

[kentuckyrosesinmay]

Originally Posted by BellamyRd.

yeah, but you also have to consider
that you are as dumb as a box of rocks...

I guess that you are entitled to an opinion (LOL) although it is a very childish one. Really BR, I don't feel like getting into it with you. I don't have to because that statement came out of nowhere and you just lost what little credibility you had...

Boy, do I have some haters on this board...LOL

Let me ask you a question, if I am as dumb as a box of rocks, then what does that make those who agreed with me on this subject, which was everyone but you on this board? Humor me.

[Cajungator26]

Originally Posted by kentuckyrosesinmay

I guess that you are entitled to an opinion (LOL) although it is a very childish one. Really BR, I don't feel like getting into it with you. I don't have to because that statement came out of nowhere and you just lost what little credibility you had...

Boy, do I have some haters on this board...LOL

Let me ask you a question, if I am as dumb as a box of rocks, then what does that make those who agreed with me on this subject, which was everyone but you on this board? Humor me.

Let's not start with this today. Good heavens, I get a headache just thinking about it. LMFAO For the record, I DO NOT hate you or think you are dumb. I just think that things come across a different way on a message board than they do in person.

[Nostradamus]

Originally Posted by Secretariat

BERNARDINI, off of 6 lifetime starts, will not win the classic, he just won't. and further,lets let him hit the wire before at least 1 older horse before we call him anything close to a champion, he still has yet to do that.

we all saw what SHOWING UP did when he faced the real horses,not the colts, CACIQUE made him look his age.

Showing Up could not hold Bernardini's jock, and while Barbaro might have been better, there is no way of knowing that. Bernardini will win the JCGC and the Breeders Cup Classic, and he will win both easily. That coming from a huge Lael fan. Bernardini deserves the three year old and the HOY if he wins both, which he will.

[kentuckyrosesinmay]

Originally Posted by Cajungator26

Let's not start with this today. Good heavens, I get a headache just thinking about it. LMFAO For the record, I DO NOT hate you or think you are dumb. I just think that things come across a different way on a message board than they do in person.

Yeah, I have been a little bit better about it in the last few days. Noone on this board has ever come out and called me as "dumb as a box of rocks" or "stupid" before. That is a new one...LOL

I actually found BR's post humorous...And was joking around with him anyway. The question won't be answered probably. I'll leave it at that I won't say anything else to BR. Like I said, I really don't have to...

If I have anything else to say to BR, then I will pm him. I thought that it was entirely inappropriate for him to come on here and call me as dumb as a box of rocks, especially since everyone else on the board agreed with me and I haven't spoken to him since the Barbaro the Champ thread when he also called me about every name in the book. Maybe I am as dumb as a box of rocks sometimes, but this was not one of those times...LOL.

[Nostradamus]

Originally Posted by Rupert Pupkin

I think Bernardini will win the Classic. I think he is head and shoulders of above anyone out there with the possible exception of Lava Man. But with Lava Man, we don't know that he can necessarily run as well on the road and his last two races were not quite as good as some of his past races. I make Bernardini a pretty heavy favorite to win the Classic.

Showing Up is a different story. Even after he won the Arlington race in a faster time than The Tin Man ran on the same day at the same track, everyone on this board including myself agreed that Showing Up would have no chance agaisnt The Tin Man. Showing up had been very impressive but he still didn't look quite as good as the top older turf horses.

Showing Up is just as good as any older turf horse, but only up to around 10f. It is not so much that Showing Up is so great, but he fits right in with the good, but not great american turf horses. They all just beat each other over and over and Showing Up will beat them one day, when his turn comes around. Next year he should not have Cacique and English Channel either.

Showing Up though, is not in Bernardini or Barbaro's league. He is likely to be another Lava Man type. Very good, but never great.

Originally Posted by kentuckyrosesinmay

Yeah, I have been a little bit better about it in the last few days. Noone on this board has ever come out and called me as "dumb as a box of rocks" or "stupid" before. That is a new one...LOL

I actually found BR's post humorous...And was joking around with him anyway. The question won't be answered probably. I'll leave it at that I won't say anything else to BR. Like I said, I really don't have to...

If I have anything else to say to BR, then I will pm him. I thought that it was entirely inappropriate for him to come on here and call me as dumb as a box of rocks, especially since everyone else on the board agreed with me and I haven't spoken to him since the Barbaro the Champ thread when he also called me about every name in the book. Maybe I am as dumb as a box of rocks sometimes, but this was not one of those times...LOL.

Einstein ain't got nothin' on you. You go girl!










Oh...LOL.

Oh and Bernardini should already win 3 year old champion. YES!! I AM GENIOUS! LOL!

[Rupert Pupkin]

Originally Posted by Nostradamus

Showing Up is just as good as any older turf horse, but only up to around 10f. It is not so much that Showing Up is so great, but he fits right in with the good, but not great american turf horses. They all just beat each other over and over and Showing Up will beat them one day, when his turn comes around. Next year he should not have Cacique and English Channel either.

Showing Up though, is not in Bernardini or Barbaro's league. He is likely to be another Lava Man type. Very good, but never great.

I think that Showing Up is a good horse. The thing we were talking about on this board after the Arlington Million was how Showing Up ran faster than The Tin Man at the same track, on the same day, at the same distance. So the discussion was about what would have happened if Showing Up would have been in the Arlington Million. Would he have won the race? He ran faster than they did. My answer was that I did not think he would have won. I thought the final time of his race was faster only because the fractions were so slow in the Million. I'm not saying that Showing Up would have embarrassed himself in the Million. I just don't think he would have won.

[Betsy]

I love Steve Haskin, but this makes no sense whatsoever. You can't be HOY and not be the best of your division, and I disagree with him that Barbaro has accomplished more then Bernardini. It's tragic that Barbaro broke down, but it happened. The facts are that Bernardini has continued to run tremendous races outside of the Preakness and should not rewarded as such.

Originally Posted by Betsy

I love Steve Haskin, but this makes no sense whatsoever. You can't be HOY and not be the best of your division, and I disagree with him that Barbaro has accomplished more then Bernardini. It's tragic that Barbaro broke down, but it happened. The facts are that Bernardini has continued to run tremendous races outside of the Preakness and should not rewarded as such.

Even if he doesnt win anymore Betsy?

[Betsy]

Originally Posted by oracle80

Even if he doesnt win anymore Betsy?

Oops, my quote should say that Bernardini should be rewarded as such.

Yes, I think Bernardini has done enough to be named top 3 year old even if he doesn't beat older horses.

I think Steve needs to have some conviction here and not cop out. If Bernardini doesn't beat older horses (but runs well), and Steve still thinks Barbaro is just as (if not more) accomplished, then he has to vote for Barbaro. If he thinks Bernardini did more (past tense, since we are presuming now that this is the end of the year), then he has to vote Bernardini. No splitting the vote, no different 3 year old and HOY. Pick one.

Originally Posted by Cajungator26

That's highly disgusting and degrading. To take it that far shows no class at all.

Cajun, hows this?
Betsy, we know how you feel about Bernadini, you've been letting us know for quite some time now.
But for you to tell Haskin what he should think is HYSTERICAL!!!
His theory makes more sense than you telling us that Bernadini has definitely done enough at this point without beating elders to wrest away the championship from Barbaro.
They both won tri crown races with Barabaro taking the elite race, against a field of 20, because bernadini "wasn't up to that yet". Barabaro also won his previous three races, all graded, with the Florida derby being amongst them.
Its about pretty equal at this point. Certainly debatable, but for you to say he doesnt need to beat elders and speak condescendingly towards Haskins theory at the same time is pretty funny.

Lets stay on topic, shall we?

I think Bernardini is a lock for 3 year old champion. Why? Because I am good at Tetris.

Originally Posted by ArlJim78

Well we all can't be pillars of integrity like you.

I don't need a lesson on morality for a bunch of degenerates
on a horse racing message board
if KY/May wasn't such a whiney little bitch
we wouldn't have all these chilivous men
coming to her rescue

Originally Posted by BellamyRd.

I don't need a lesson on morality for a bunch of degenerates
on a horse racing message board
if KY/May wasn't such a whiney little bitch
we wouldn't have all these chilivous men
coming to her rescue

I challenge thee to a duel. Tetris? I will fight for her honour.

Originally Posted by DaHoss9698

What exactly does chilivous mean?

it's a new word I made up
ok I give, perhaps what I said was in bad taste
I didn't think people would find it that offensive
then when I get attacked, I come out swinging
so I apologize if you were someone I offended
or insulted