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Old 10-22-2006, 09:33 PM
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I think FC was done after his effort in Preakness 2003 !!!!
that is just crazy. he had a very good campaign as a 4yo in which he hit the board in a lot of graded stakes racess and won two of them..........including the G1 JCGC.

even this year as an over-the-hill 6yo he has won a couple of stakes races. he may be done now....but done after the '03 preakness.....no.
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Old 10-22-2006, 09:56 PM
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ok, maybe i don't know wtf i am talking about, but did he not break on top? if he is heathly he should run till he is ten. vote NO for retirement. thank you.
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Old 10-22-2006, 10:00 PM
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if he's healthy, give him a break, then let him run some more...
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Old 10-23-2006, 07:06 AM
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I dont think people expect perfect drift to win, he never wins. Funny Cide will always be a Derby winner, a gutsy gelding. PD is the slow, boring, pick up the pieces gelding.
your boring bonehead
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Old 10-23-2006, 10:07 AM
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This rant coming from someone whose username ran three times. I saw his NW2 at Saratoga about '80. It was his last race

I don't think Danzig ever ran at Saratoga. I know he was scratched the final time he was entered, and that was at Monmouth, in a race eventually won by 15 lengths by the mighty Amber Pass ( in the days when horses we actually good ).
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Old 10-23-2006, 10:46 AM
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I don't think Danzig ever ran at Saratoga. I know he was scratched the final time he was entered, and that was at Monmouth, in a race eventually won by 15 lengths by the mighty Amber Pass ( in the days when horses we actually good ).
I am pretty sure I was at the Spa for his third and final race, an allowance win ...'81? '82? The memory isn't what it used to be so I may be wrong.
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Old 10-23-2006, 11:03 AM
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West Virginia's a pretty darn good race horse, and he also got waxed in the Empire Classic. I think folks are WAY overreacting on this particular Funny Cide race.
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Old 10-23-2006, 11:09 AM
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1993 Stallion register for Danzig (1977):

at 2, Won a maiden race at Belmont Park (5 1/2 furlongs, by 8 1/2)
At 3, Won an allowance race at Aqueduct (6 furlongs, by 7 1/2)
Won an allowance race at Belmont Park (7 furlongs, by 5 3/4)

Saw him at Claiborne a few years back. That knee had an enormous bump in the side of it (screws?). He was a laid-back sort of oldster who let us pet him and fuss over him. But if he was 15.3 like the stallion register says, I'll eat my hat. His dad Northern Dancer was advertised at the same height, probably thick shoes and a mat underneath when they measured. Why the prejudice against small horses, when some of the best are smallish?
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Old 10-23-2006, 11:20 AM
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1993 Stallion register for Danzig (1977):

at 2, Won a maiden race at Belmont Park (5 1/2 furlongs, by 8 1/2)
At 3, Won an allowance race at Aqueduct (6 furlongs, by 7 1/2)
Won an allowance race at Belmont Park (7 furlongs, by 5 3/4)

Saw him at Claiborne a few years back. That knee had an enormous bump in the side of it (screws?). He was a laid-back sort of oldster who let us pet him and fuss over him. But if he was 15.3 like the stallion register says, I'll eat my hat. His dad Northern Dancer was advertised at the same height, probably thick shoes and a mat underneath when they measured. Why the prejudice against small horses, when some of the best are smallish?
You were too busy checking out that bump on his knee to notice his missing eye?

Danzig and " laid back " in the same sentence?????? Methinks you were shown the wrong horse.
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Old 10-23-2006, 12:43 PM
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West Virginia's a pretty darn good race horse, and he also got waxed in the Empire Classic. I think folks are WAY overreacting on this particular Funny Cide race.
Thats probably true, but I honestly hate to see a multiple Grade 1 winner, a horse considered by some to be a hero - who introduced many to the game, off the board in a race restricted to NY breds. Nothing against NY-breds but I just hate to see talented horses who have lost 'it'. Funny had a string of something like 14 100+ Beyer efforts snapped last spring and now he's lucky to run a low 90's fig. He was a battler and I'll always remember that JCGC win, but now I just dont see that same fire in his eyes. I saw it in the race against Gold and Roses this spring, but not since then. I just would hate to see him continually slide down the ladder until he's running in allowance races in front of 2,000 degenerages (said in the nicest terms possible because I'm one of them) at Aqueduct on some Thursday afternoon.. Whether he 'likes' running or not, well nobody can know for sure - maybe he's just too professional to give up, but perhaps he would be best served in a pasture somewhere in upstate New York (Or at the KHP) enjoying life as a horse, having little kids feed him sugar cubes and mints and running free (within the confines of a fenced in field, lol).
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Old 10-23-2006, 12:46 PM
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Thats probably true, but I honestly hate to see a multiple Grade 1 winner, a horse considered by some to be a hero - who introduced many to the game, off the board in a race restricted to NY breds. Nothing against NY-breds but I just hate to see talented horses who have lost 'it'. Funny had a string of something like 14 100+ Beyer efforts snapped last spring and now he's lucky to run a low 90's fig. He was a battler and I'll always remember that JCGC win, but now I just dont see that same fire in his eyes. I saw it in the race against Gold and Roses this spring, but not since then. I just would hate to see him continually slide down the ladder until he's running in allowance races in front of 2,000 degenerages (said in the nicest terms possible because I'm one of them) at Aqueduct on some Thursday afternoon.. Whether he 'likes' running or not, well nobody can know for sure - maybe he's just too professional to give up, but perhaps he would be best served in a pasture somewhere in upstate New York (Or at the KHP) enjoying life as a horse, having little kids feed him sugar cubes and mints and running free (within the confines of a fenced in field, lol).
I thought he looked pretty game... it's not like he stopped running. At least he was running at the end (although that apparently means nothing.)
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Old 10-23-2006, 01:20 PM
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What else would you have them do with the horse? It's not like he has a career at stud to look forward to, and he's hardly been overraced in the last couple of years. So long as he's healthy, they need to put him in competitive spots and keep running him. I don't have a problem with him running in the Empire Classic or the Excelsior or any of the other restricted or ungraded races up on the NYRA circuit.
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Old 10-23-2006, 07:45 PM
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You were too busy checking out that bump on his knee to notice his missing eye?

Danzig and " laid back " in the same sentence?????? Methinks you were shown the wrong horse.
his eye wasn't missing, he injured it with a splinter, and it clouded over.

and his knee was probably bumpy due to injuries and arthritis. just like genuine risk, her knee is huge--she got loose at the track and ran into a fire hydrant--that was why she retired.
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Old 10-23-2006, 07:46 PM
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also, danzig wasn't laid back in his younger days. his paddock was not for the faint of heart. but of course age caught up with him, as well as all the aches and pains. i doubt he calmed down, just slowed down!
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Old 10-23-2006, 07:53 PM
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his eye wasn't missing, he injured it with a splinter, and it clouded over.

and his knee was probably bumpy due to injuries and arthritis. just like genuine risk, her knee is huge--she got loose at the track and ran into a fire hydrant--that was why she retired.

I thought it was missing....though whatever the case they weren't sure how he did it. He did it one night and they surmised he did it by rubbing against the fence.

I saw him a few times. The first time was 1994 and the last was 2003. He was somewhat mellowed by 2003 as they actually let me go to his stall. All the groom had to do was shake the bridle used for breeding, however, and he got all charged up.
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Old 10-23-2006, 08:00 PM
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i saw him last summer. groom said that when they got word a horse went down in feb(devil's bag), everyone automatically assumed it was danzig because of his leg. he said the old guy was moving ok, just slowed down. he lived a full life, certainly made his mark!
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Old 10-23-2006, 08:10 PM
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Yeah...he was a remarkable sire.

Along with Mr. P he was the one I always wanted to see the most when I went to Claiborne. Though, having seen so many of them race, it was fun to see them all. I only saw Easy Goer once, Forty Niner a couple times, and Lure once ( I got to feel where he had the ball on his tendon ).
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Old 10-23-2006, 08:11 PM
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and now i guess i know who'll be standing in danzigs stall come winter...just saw the news that war fronts breeding rights were purchased by claiborne.
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Old 10-23-2006, 08:13 PM
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Yeah...he was a remarkable sire.

Along with Mr. P he was the one I always wanted to see the most when I went to Claiborne. Though, having seen so many of them race, it was fun to see them all. I only saw Easy Goer once, Forty Niner a couple times, and Lure once ( I got to feel where he had the ball on his tendon ).
BTW, what did you think of Easy Goer?
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Yeah...he was a remarkable sire.

Along with Mr. P he was the one I always wanted to see the most when I went to Claiborne. Though, having seen so many of them race, it was fun to see them all. I only saw Easy Goer once, Forty Niner a couple times, and Lure once ( I got to feel where he had the ball on his tendon ).
i think it was the best part of my vacation. so much racing history at that farm...lol still can't get over monarchos just standing there eating up all the attention. pulpit even behaved himself when the groom brought him out.
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