Funny Cide

TheSpyder · #1 10-22-2006, 11:34 AM

Surprised no one commented about FC's race. This horse is done! Shows none of the spirit of old, does not want to win and should at least be allowed to spend the rest of his days in the life style he diserves. Maybe he can have an operation and put that thing back on so he can have some fun.

Downthestretch55 · #2 10-22-2006, 11:43 AM

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Originally Posted by TheSpyder

Surprised no one commented about FC's race. This horse is done! Shows none of the spirit of old, does not want to win and should at least be allowed to spend the rest of his days in the life style he diserves. Maybe he can have an operation and put that thing back on so he can have some fun.

I agree. Funny Cide deserves to be retired and live out his years in lush green pastures. He's run longer and harder than many.
I hope his connections do the right thing for the horse.

ELA · #3 10-22-2006, 11:56 AM

First off, I never play internet horse trainer or anything of the like. I've never spent any time around this horse and can only go on what I've seen of him on the track. I haven't seen anything to the effect, but for all I know he could have bled, been sick and scoped bad, etc. -- meaning there could be some sort of excuse. Regardless, in this case, it doesn't matter.

Whether there is or not, no way they should take a shot in the Cigar. Even when this horse is at 100% -- today -- he cannot compete with the top tier, open, G1 class of horses. I think he has shown that. Now there is nothing wrong with that. There is no shame in not being at the top of the game. Racing this horse in G1's is not smart and won't be popular either. It will cause the end to arrive much sooner.

Yesterday's performance certainly wasn't up to expectation, but, what did he get beat -- a couple of lengths? He came back on a bit in the stretch. Sure, he lacked any full finish or late kick. I don't want to see this come to the 2005 Suburban. That was very sad. This horse looked like he wanted no part of racing, perhaps not even any part of the track. He did outclass the field in Canada recently so I am not sure that is reflective of this horse being able to compete in G3's.

If he is healthy and right, he can probably compete against the NY breds. Maybe yesterday wasn't a true indication of where he is in his career. If it is -- then it is time to retire him.

Eric

Bystander · #4 10-22-2006, 12:00 PM

Now I'm no Funny Side supporter (or apologist) but I don't see how the Empire Classic is proof of anything. It was an aberrant ride by Velasquez, strangling him back out of his preferred style and taking him wide. The horse is probably done but I think he was taken so far out of his game yesterday that it's hard to draw such absolute conclusions. And is Organizer really "the best" of the NY breds? It was a weird race.

Bernardini · #5 10-22-2006, 12:25 PM

I think FC was done after his effort in Preakness 2003 !!!!

Scav · #6 10-22-2006, 12:43 PM

I agree with the Mile but GUN him from the gate and let him look other horses in the eye on the lead, he might stay then

#7 10-22-2006, 12:47 PM

Funny Cide kinda reminds me of Mike Tyson. Maybe he should go on an exhibition tour and then off to greener pastures.

SniperSB23 · #8 10-22-2006, 12:53 PM

Um, didn't he just miss $150,000 by one and a half lengths? Stick to state bred races and the occassional weak open stakes next year and he'll be just fine. Evaluate him for what he is, a 6yo gelded NY bred and a pretty darn good one at that.

Cajungator26 · #9 10-22-2006, 12:55 PM

He still looked pretty game to me...

It's a shame though...

blackthroatedwind · #10 10-22-2006, 01:10 PM

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Now I'm no Funny Side supporter (or apologist) but I don't see how the Empire Classic is proof of anything. It was an aberrant ride by Velasquez, strangling him back out of his preferred style and taking him wide. The horse is probably done but I think he was taken so far out of his game yesterday that it's hard to draw such absolute conclusions. And is Organizer really "the best" of the NY breds? It was a weird race.

I totally agree ( though I am guessing the writer meant abhorrent ). All of Funny Cide's good races have been on the engine, something Mig figured out, and with the scratches yesterday there was very little pace....so what did Corny do....strangled him into submission and took away his edge. Would he have won? I don't know, but he certainly wasn't given a fair chance.

Bystander · #11 10-22-2006, 01:13 PM

Nope. I meant aberrant, though abhorrent works too.

blackthroatedwind · #12 10-22-2006, 01:15 PM

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Nope. I meant aberrant, though abhorrent works too.

I always liked " abhor "...works for me.

Can a jockey ever give an "aberrant " ride....other than Kent Desormeaux giving a good ride?

Bystander · #13 10-22-2006, 01:20 PM

Yeah, when Cornelio "deviates from the proper or expected course," he gives an aberrant ride (which is also abhorrent.)

Pedigree Ann · #14 10-22-2006, 01:22 PM

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Um, didn't he just miss $150,000 by one and a half lengths? Stick to state bred races and the occassional weak open stakes next year and he'll be just fine. Evaluate him for what he is, a 6yo gelded NY bred and a pretty darn good one at that.

When I look at some of the horses who were in my Road to the Roses stables over the years, I think Funny Cide is doing OK. He is still competitive in stakes races at some level. Some of those horses who looked so promising in the winter and spring of the year have been running in mid-to-low level claiming races, and not always winning.

Danzig · #15 10-22-2006, 01:24 PM

a lot of horses lose more than they win, yet funny is the only one to get constant 'retire him now' threads. it's silly.
we expect horses to stick around, yet when they do we're in a hurry to see them go. having your cake and eating it too i suppose.

SniperSB23 · #16 10-22-2006, 01:28 PM

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a lot of horses lose more than they win, yet funny is the only one to get constant 'retire him now' threads. it's silly.
we expect horses to stick around, yet when they do we're in a hurry to see them go. having your cake and eating it too i suppose.

Yeah, as long as there are state bred stakes that he can compete in he belongs on the track. When the day comes where he can't even hit top five in those races and claimers are the only option then it is time to retire him.

Danzig · #17 10-22-2006, 01:30 PM

i wouldn't mind seeing him run in a claiming race, than there would possibly be new ownership!!!

Revolution · #18 10-22-2006, 01:40 PM

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i wouldn't mind seeing him run in a claiming race, than there would possibly be new ownership!!!

Maybe they can sell him to Tagg so he can make him his pet, because that is all he is right now.

letswastemoney · #19 10-22-2006, 02:15 PM

Spite the Devil finished up the track somewhere. Is he done? How about Naughty New Yorker he finished 6th. Is he done too?? If Funny Cide deserves retirement for finishing 4th, then you should demand retirement from anyone that finishes behind him!

Slewbopper · #20 10-22-2006, 02:22 PM

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Originally Posted by SniperSB23

Um, didn't he just miss $150,000 by one and a half lengths? Stick to state bred races and the occassional weak open stakes next year and he'll be just fine. Evaluate him for what he is, a 6yo gelded NY bred and a pretty darn good one at that.

He looked like a horse that doesn't give a sh!t anymore. He runs erratically, like he doesn't care. CV whipped the hell out of him trying to get him interested on the far turn and into the stretch. He made a mild rally and then kind of just said "The hell with this". If he had any interest, he would have beaten this group for fun.

He should be sent to KHP to hang out with John and Cigar. He could tell them about winning the Derby and Preakness and racing in front of a record 103,000 going for the TC. He deserves his place in the sun, not this continuing charade by the Sackacaca boys