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Old 10-31-2006, 04:18 PM
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Call Michael Dickinson. He'll have it installed by Friday morning.

Then, we can listen to Oracle and Cunningham bitch about not being able to wager on BC day. It will be worth a thread... or 20!
I just pictured the 2007 Derby on Polytrack and threw up a little in my mouth.
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Old 10-31-2006, 04:19 PM
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I would love to see the card that Churchill ran on the Friday preceding the BC in 2000. For all I know it was very similar. Maybe someone can dig it up.
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Old 10-31-2006, 04:20 PM
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I just pictured the 2007 Derby on Polytrack and threw up a little in my mouth.
I have a similar reaction around here quite often.
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Old 10-31-2006, 04:50 PM
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Prepare for a barf-fest then.
http://www.courier-journal.com/apps/...0802/610310441
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Old 10-31-2006, 05:15 PM
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Pretty strong card tomorrow, couple nice OC etc..
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Old 10-31-2006, 05:25 PM
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their is no ryhme or reason to Friday's card. was up with that?
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Old 10-31-2006, 06:35 PM
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I never understand you guys... isn't it about finding value within the races?

I guess it's that "Mountaineer bias" coming out in me... Who gives a **** what level the races are, as long as they present balanced wide-open affairs?
That's seriously all I care about. I don't understand how y'all think you can only wager on high-end allowance and Stakes events...

Now, I take back what I just said if those claiming races only have 6 or 7 horses in them... then it's a short, crappy field. If that's the case... I take it back. But my betting style- I do so much better with 5kN2L claimers than Allowance 44kN2X horses... Different strokes for different folks I guess...
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Old 10-31-2006, 07:00 PM
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Another surprising post by Mr. NYRA himself.....get used to it because the spires will be over BEL, SAR and AQU soon
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Old 10-31-2006, 07:10 PM
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Another surprising post by Mr. NYRA himself.....get used to it because the spires will be over BEL, SAR and AQU soon
Did you even read what I said? I don't blame Churchill...I was just disappointed the card wasn't more appetizing. They usually seem to put on a great card on a day like that.

I even mentioned that Belmont had a lousy card before the BC last year.

And, to answer your Churchill reference....they took a piece with Empire Racing. Now THAT's embarrassing. Eventually they may have to blame that on Meeker.
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Old 10-31-2006, 07:14 PM
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Did you even read what I said? I don't blame Churchill...I was just disappointed the card wasn't more appetizing. They usually seem to put on a great card on a day like that.

I even mentioned that Belmont had a lousy card before the BC last year.

And, to answer your Churchill reference....they took a piece with Empire Racing. Now THAT's embarrassing. Eventually they may have to blame that on Meeker.
I'm just busting your chops, Andy... ...and obviously they had to partner due to the worth of the franchise.....seriously, they would probably be what you guys need IMO - and this is coming from a guy who got laid off by CDI ....they are bottomline driven company and one of the few that has proven that they can make money.....NYRA can't seem to figure it out....
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Old 10-31-2006, 07:23 PM
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I'm just busting your chops, Andy... ...and obviously they had to partner due to the worth of the franchise.....seriously, they would probably be what you guys need IMO - and this is coming from a guy who got laid off by CDI ....they are bottomline driven company and one of the few that has proven that they can make money.....NYRA can't seem to figure it out....
Now that you throw in that tidbit they are obviously brilliant.

Not saying Churchill isn't necessarily run well but they couldn't make money under the current rules in NY either.

I agree they had to somehow be involved but I don't think they did their homework well on this one.
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Old 11-01-2006, 01:11 AM
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If you're there on Thursday I suggest you take a long hard look @ the 10 horse in the 7th. I will be playing high, AND i do not throw my money around foolishly.
I'm going to be in transit but I will take a look. Thanks.
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Old 11-01-2006, 01:14 AM
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Just looked. That's a GOOD horse. A little short for my taste though anything close to the ML of 5-2 and he feels like a major bet. Thanks again for pointing him out. That one appears to have a real future.

It looks like Dominican, the one right inside of him, is the only legit competition on paper at a glance.
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Old 11-01-2006, 05:34 AM
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Gulfstream's Friday preceeding the BC and Sunday after the BC were by far the best cards of any BC weekend (did not attend their first BC, but the last two were this way). Each day featured multiple (at least four) six figure stakes created just for the weekend. Also had several allowances, don't remember if they even had a claiming race, if so, it was a high level one. The Euro's brought their second strings and ran them on the grass both Friday and Sunday a very nice way to sandwich the BC.

My first BC was in '92 at Gulfstream. After that nice three days of racing, I incorrectly assumed that all venues did this. Unfortunately the CD friday and, I'm assuming Sunday's card have been more the norm. I've attended BC's at Santa Anita, Hollywood, Churchill, Arlington and Woodbine and their friday/sunday cards have been similar(stakeswise) to what we are getting this weekend.
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Old 11-01-2006, 09:40 AM
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I don't understand what the complaining is about. Friday is not the Breeders Cup; Saturday is. So what if they want to run a open 5K or a 10K NW2. Does anybody really believe that all of the 10 or 12K claimers at Belmont or Hollywood are worth that? A lot of the horses in those races would be running for 5000, if those tracks carded at that level. I don't like when tracks load up one day with stakes and sacrifice 3 or 4 Saturday cards in the process.
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Old 11-01-2006, 10:19 AM
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If you're there on Thursday I suggest you take a long hard look @ the 10 horse in the 7th. I will be playing high, AND i do not throw my money around foolishly.
Broke his maiden in style, out of an AWESOME AWESOME AWESOME sprinting filly, who just happened to finish 2nd in the BC Sprint the last time it was at Chuchill
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