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Old 02-26-2008, 12:36 PM
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Of course. But it's a lot tougher than you're making it out to be. Another person in this thread and myself own a couple two year olds we bought as yearlings, trained by yet another person in this thread. They were very modest prices, relative to what you COULD spend at the KEE Sept sales (about $20k each). By the time they hit the track, we will be $80k deep on these guys, which means even with statebred incentives (which, of course, was part of the "where do you spend" GBBob is referring to) we have maybe a 15% chance of recouping our investment.



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For some it is not so tough.

It depends on how good your eye is. Most of racing is luck, some is not. I know it can be done because I have seen it done from hanging out with some people out in California. The only part that takes a lot of luck is keeping the horse sound. Finding a good two year old in training sale horse does not take that much luck. It is a skill. I wish everyone could see what I have seen. Then, they would take me seriously.

I don't do yearlings. You are taking an enormous gamble with yearlings. There are very few people that are good at picking out yearlings...
Very, very, very few, and they are still often wrong.

See, what I would have done is taken 40,000 (combined two of 20,000), and gone to OBS April two year olds in training. At least you can tell if they can run or not in the two year olds in training sales. And I have seen some nice horses go for under 40,000. I could actually name a few under this price that turned out to be good racehoses from OBS April who had nice workouts.

That way, you wouldn't have had to pay for the training of two animals who might both turn out to be bad because yearlings change so much, you can't see them run, and they have more time for something to go wrong. If you buy a two year old, you don't have to wait so long for them to race, and don't have to waste a lot of other money in the process waiting on them. Plus, like I said, you can't tell if they can run or not as yearlings. So, its not my fault that you are 80,000 deep. You chose to be 80,000 deep. You also need to have more money saved up than what you originally buy the horse for so that you can easily pay for that horse's expenses before they make it to the races. Its all about maximizing your chances of having a good horse, and minimizing your costs in the process. I'd rather have one good horse than two bad ones.

Hopefully, this won't be the case and your yearlings will turn out for you, and you will get lucky and get your money back.

I am making it as complicated as I have seen it done from my experiences. I also know what I am capable of, and know what I am not capable of. My eye is better than most, and I know exactly who to go to who will find me a good horse if I'm not 100% confident in my abilities to pick one out by the time I purchase one.
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Old 02-26-2008, 12:38 PM
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jesus, all you DO is talk about your experience and how great you are....we've heard it already. And frankly it's very old.
why not focus on getting through school, becoming surgeon general, and eventually running for president....we all know that Hillary won't get elected this year because the country is waiting for you.
But obviously from the less than warm welcome you get on the internet you just MIGHT need to tweak the personality a bit....I know, I know If we met you inperson we would love you....I'm just afraid if I met you in person I would happily strangle you.
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Old 02-26-2008, 12:39 PM
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In Morty's absense I can think of no better time to quote him......




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Old 02-26-2008, 12:41 PM
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I'm tempted to order a real doll in KYRIM's likeness and have it sent to her...and a camera.
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Old 02-26-2008, 12:41 PM
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jesus, all you DO is talk about your experience and how great you are....we've heard it already. And frankly it's very old.
why not focus on getting through school, becoming surgeon general, and eventually running for president....we all know that Hillary won't get elected this year because the country is waiting for you.
But obviously from the less than warm welcome you get on the internet you just MIGHT need to tweak the personality a bit....I know, I know If we met you inperson we would love you....I'm just afraid if I met you in person I would happily strangle you.
I have not talked about my experiences in horse racing...

When have I? What do you know of that I have done in horse racing besides maybe going to the BC? What are my experiences? I don't talk about how great I am... What have I done that is so great?

I'm just a little North carolina girl that goes to UNC Chapel Hill who is trying to make something of herself. That is the extent of what I have said. I own a horse, and love my boyfriend. That is all.
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Old 02-26-2008, 12:43 PM
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.....for the sake of all that's decent in the world.....





SHUT UP!
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Old 02-26-2008, 12:45 PM
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.....for the sake of all that's decent in the world.....





SHUT UP!
Reason for response...can't answer questions...
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I have not talked about my experiences in horse racing...

When have I? What do you know of that I have done in horse racing? What are my experiences? I don't talk about how great I am... What have I done that is so great?
I'm just a little North carolina girl that goes to UNC Chapel Hill who is trying to make something of herself. That is the extent of what I have said. I own a horse. That is all.
you've said it all right here....no need for more. And I'm not the type to search through old posts trying to prove my point, it's enough that there are many here who agree with me....

Oh and I'm just a little girl who GRADUATED from school already, and have worked in the industry since you were in grade school.
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Old 02-26-2008, 12:45 PM
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I'm all for North Carolina blondes. Stand your ground girl. And I like your remembrances in your profile.
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Old 02-26-2008, 12:51 PM
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you've said it all right here....no need for more. And I'm not the type to search through old posts trying to prove my point, it's enough that there are many here who agree with me....

Oh and I'm just a little girl who GRADUATED from school already, and have worked in the industry since you were in grade school.
What have I said right here?

Sorry I am stupid. You need to spell it out for me.

And I don't care if I am liked on the internet or not.

Doesn't always mean that my information is wrong, and that I don't have useful things to say.
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Old 02-26-2008, 12:51 PM
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Listen to Sumitas!! And if his support isn't inspiration to fight on then do it for Dean Smith!!!
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Old 02-26-2008, 12:52 PM
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... and I thought pedigree threads were boring.

Priceless stuff here. It's giving me a headache but wow, I'm amazed at some of the absurd posts here.
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What have I said right here?
you've done nothing that is so great.

which is just part of what make you the most annoying member of this board.
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Old 02-26-2008, 12:53 PM
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She's a young blonde. She gets a free pass from me
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Old 02-26-2008, 12:55 PM
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A share in SWLY - $500
A share in KNS - $500
Entertainment like this - PRICELESS
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Old 02-26-2008, 12:55 PM
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If I have the money to spend, which I will before ever getting into this game, I don't see why I need to be concerned now with what I will own.

Naive...you have no idea my experiences in this sport which are more extensive than mosts, and I don't feel the need to talk about them because it would be viewed as bragging.

No one knows about my experiences except for one on this board, and he still doesn't know all of them.
I hope you can train as well.....
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Old 02-26-2008, 12:56 PM
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She's a young blonde. She gets a free pass from me
my guess is that she gets a lot of free passes that way....
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Old 02-26-2008, 12:57 PM
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you've done nothing that is so great.

which is just part of what make you the most annoying member of this board.
But, it doesn't make my posts wrong.

And you don't know my experiences in the horse racing industry, so it doesn't really matter.

Why am I annoying?
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Old 02-26-2008, 12:57 PM
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whatever you do kyrim, please do not pick out your own horses or you will def lose money as an owner. You'll skip over the street senses' and ags' of the world cause they are sore.

- also i am positive your 'experiences' in the game would not be more than the average of the 'experiences' of dt posters.

man i'm starting to sound like hooves
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I hope you can train as well.....
I imagine she's been trained before.
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