Biancone, cold with 2 year olds, my theory why - Page 7

Gander · #**121** 08-09-2006, 10:50 AM

Just like humans. When you run on a treadmill, you use different muscles than you do when you run on the road. When you run on a sandy beach, you use different muscles than you do when you run on a grassy soccer field.

As far as training goes, it all depends on the person running. There are olympic marathoners who have trained exclsuively on treadmills, and do not run outside until a few weeks before the actual race. Conversely there are those who never use treadmills, rather do all their running on the same surface the marathons are run on.

alysheba4 · #**122** 08-09-2006, 12:28 PM

although its difficult to move my 6-2 250 lb body on either surface......... i must say the treadmill is way easier for me.

#**123** 08-09-2006, 12:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by alysheba4

although its difficult to move my 6-2 250 lb body on either surface......... i must say the treadmill is way easier for me.

I would love to be 250. I have a hard time moving my 269 body from the ice cream bowl. Screw a treadmill.

GenuineRisk · #**124** 08-09-2006, 12:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by alysheba4

although its difficult to move my 6-2 250 lb body on either surface......... i must say the treadmill is way easier for me.

This 5'4", 115lb'er finds treadmills easier, too. I get very knee sore running on pavement. I guess I wouldn't be suited to the California racetracks... or maybe I just have soundness issues.

Maybe the treadmill is easier for me because I can run on a slight incline, which seems to put less stress on my knees.

#**125** 08-09-2006, 12:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GenuineRisk

This 5'4", 115lb'er finds treadmills easier, too. I get very knee sore running on pavement. I guess I wouldn't be suited to the California racetracks... or maybe I just have soundness issues.

Maybe the treadmill is easier for me because I can run on a slight incline, which seems to put less stress on my knees.

5'4 and 115--geez. That is one tiny person.

GenuineRisk · #**126** 08-09-2006, 12:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by eurobounce

5'4 and 115--geez. That is one tiny person.

Yeah, and 115 is on the heavy side for me-- you'd think I wasn't slapping down enough weight on my knees to make them hurt, huh?

On the bright side, it means I can ride anything at the riding stables-- no weight limits for me.

#**127** 08-09-2006, 01:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by oracle80

Rup,
different muscle groups are used to negotiate different surfaces.

This is comical.

Some of the great grass horses don't ever even see the turf except when they race on it.

Please explain the dirt to turf angle and the turf to dirt angle. I guess those different muscles magically reappear. LOL.

Scav · #**128** 08-09-2006, 01:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by boldruler

This is comical.

Some of the great grass horses don't ever even see the turf except when they race on it.

Please explain the dirt to turf angle and the turf to dirt angle. I guess those different muscles magically reappear. LOL.

it is amazing how you magically DISAPPEAR....

Damascus '67 · #**129** 08-09-2006, 01:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by boldruler

This is comical.

Some of the great grass horses don't ever even see the turf except when they race on it.

Please explain the dirt to turf angle and the turf to dirt angle. I guess those different muscles magically reappear. LOL.

Do you and Nostradamus do it on the turf or dirt, or do you two have a dirt to turf angle???

zippyneedsawin · #**130** 08-09-2006, 01:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by boldruler

This is comical.

Some of the great grass horses don't ever even see the turf except when they race on it.

Please explain the dirt to turf angle and the turf to dirt angle. I guess those different muscles magically reappear. LOL.

Why do you think most turf horses have a higher leg kick than dirt horses?

#**131** 08-09-2006, 01:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Damascus '67

Do you and Nostradamus do it on the turf or dirt, or do you two have a dirt to turf angle???

Dude, you need to work on your material. Try something better, please.

As for you, do you get on all fours or just your knees for Oracle?

#**132** 08-09-2006, 01:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by zippyneedsawin

Why do you think most turf horses have a higher leg kick than dirt horses?

Their higher kick is part of their action. They don't get a higher kick, it is something they have.

Showing Up is a great example and I think even Barbaro is a good example. They didn't develop muscles to run on the turf, they just have an action that is better suited to turf racing.

Watch how many races are won on the dirt from the front and then watch how many races are won on the dirt from coming behind.

Horses develop muscles for running certain distances, not really for running on dirt or turf.

Damascus '67 · #**133** 08-09-2006, 01:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by boldruler

Dude, you need to work on your material. Try something better, please.

As for you, do you get on all fours or just your knees for Oracle?

Well, which one are you? I'm easily confused. Dude???

Don't know where that Oracle comment came from...don't know the man.

#**134** 08-09-2006, 01:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Damascus '67

Well, which one are you? I'm easily confused. Dude???

Don't know where that Oracle comment came from...don't know the man.

I am whichever one somebody logged the personal computer in as. I don't know the passwords so I can't change the screen names.

Scav · #**135** 08-09-2006, 01:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by boldruler

Watch how many races are won on the dirt from the front and then watch how many races are won on the dirt from coming behind.

Again, you exhibit your comediness. One of the reasons turf racing is won from the back is because there are no kickup. Dirt racing is won from the front partially because of all the kickup that happens from the horse in front.

How would you feel if you had dirt flying in your face for two minutes straight?

#**136** 08-09-2006, 01:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Scav

Again, you exhibit your comediness. One of the reasons turf racing is won from the back is because there are no kickup. Dirt racing is won from the front partially because of all the kickup that happens from the horse in front.

How would you feel if you had dirt flying in your face for two minutes straight?

You can't really be that dumb, can you?

Scav · #**137** 08-09-2006, 01:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by boldruler

You can't really be that dumb, can you?

Whatever man, it is said a million times that some horses don't like the dirt in their face, and some of those horses excel on the turf becuase of it.

slotdirt · #**138** 08-09-2006, 01:51 PM

Hmmm. Trust the opinion of a salty handicapper or a guy who is into horses because of a horse he liked four months ago. Tough choice.

#**139** 08-09-2006, 01:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GenuineRisk

Yeah, and 115 is on the heavy side for me-- you'd think I wasn't slapping down enough weight on my knees to make them hurt, huh?

On the bright side, it means I can ride anything at the riding stables-- no weight limits for me.

I wouldnt advertise on this board that you can "ride" anything. People like Kev would be camping out in the stable.

Cajungator26 · #**140** 08-09-2006, 01:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by eurobounce

I wouldnt advertise on this board that you can "ride" anything. People like Kev would be camping out in the stable.

LMFAO!!!