Question, Seriously

2MinsToPost · #1 03-10-2007, 07:24 PM

I am banging my head against the wall on my All Stakes Pick 4 play

After the scratch of Liquor Cabinet Master Command was the obvious single

Now, looking back, I ask myself this and ask you veteran cappers this

Should CQ been a logical single as well?

Hindsight is 20/20, but man I could have hit that Pick 4 for 3 or 4 times had I singled Master Command (which I did), gone a little deeper in the other 2 legs (even though I only missed 1 leg) and singled CQ

I feel like I dropped the ball, should have used the O'neil horse that won

Damn

hoovesupsideyourhead · #2 03-10-2007, 07:28 PM

had tw0 early pick 4s one for 700 ..64 dollar investment and the second 12 bucks inv payed a slight 350..master and quey were singles....e -stine will never win this soon..lmfao scavs

zippyneedsawin · #3 03-10-2007, 07:30 PM

On paper, CQ is a single, but I just couldn't single him either. But looking at the final payout, it was excellent considering it was really a Pick 3 with Master Commander leading it off and two morning line 2nd choices in between.

2MinsToPost · #4 03-10-2007, 07:30 PM

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Originally Posted by hoovesupsideyourhead

had tw0 early pick 4s one for 700 ..64 dollar investment and the second 12 bucks inv payed a slight 350..master and quey were singles....e -stine will never win this soon..lmfao scavs

stingin scavs, ouch

he was so confident, damn hooves

GPK · #5 03-10-2007, 07:30 PM

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Originally Posted by hoovesupsideyourhead

had tw0 early pick 4s one for 700 ..64 dollar investment and the second 12 bucks inv payed a slight 350..master and quey were singles....e -stine will never win this soon..lmfao scavs

mistake #1...listening to Scavs...

POINTGIVEN1985 · #6 03-10-2007, 07:32 PM

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Originally Posted by 2MinsToPost

I am banging my head against the wall on my All Stakes Pick 4 play

After the scratch of Liquor Cabinet Master Command was the obvious single

Now, looking back, I ask myself this and ask you veteran cappers this

Should CQ been a logical single as well?

Hindsight is 20/20, but man I could have hit that Pick 4 for 3 or 4 times had I singled Master Command (which I did), gone a little deeper in the other 2 legs (even though I only missed 1 leg) and singled CQ

I feel like I dropped the ball, should have used the O'neil horse that won

Damn

i dont know if you value my opinion or not , but i dont think cq was a logical single, there were alot of talented horses in that race and i would not have felt comfortable using him as a single i actually hit the other 3 and did not use cq at all, this hurts a little but my ticket only cost $24, so its not that bad.

hoovesupsideyourhead · #7 03-10-2007, 07:33 PM

jock made up the horses mind..were gonna lay back and make a run....horse says cool lets do this..

POINTGIVEN1985 · #8 03-10-2007, 07:34 PM

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Originally Posted by zippyneedsawin

On paper, CQ is a single, but I just couldn't single him either. But looking at the final payout, it was excellent considering it was really a Pick 3 with Master Commander leading it off and two morning line 2nd choices in between.

how was he a single on paper ? doug oneil has been almost as hot as pletcher and his horse had alot of tactical speed, i liked him more then cq, the local horse, the # 2 got pounded the whole way in the betting i liked him better then cq, and i also liked the other pletcher horse better then cq, i know he won, but even after the fact i dont see how he was a single

hoovesupsideyourhead · #9 03-10-2007, 07:39 PM

with the tear t pleach is on and the top jock in the country and the compitition..he was a single imo

2MinsToPost · #10 03-10-2007, 07:44 PM

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Originally Posted by DaHoss9698

While CQ was the most accomplished on paper I don't think he was a single. He had definite doubts about 2 turns which I guess are no more. I actually didn't like Notional at all and thought Zanjero had a big chance to upset but he was no match. Ketchikan seems like he might be one that makes some noise in upciming stakes. But no, I don't think CQ would have been a good single. Were you going to use Mistical Plan?

No I was not

I used BTW's ABC logic and Mistical Plan was a B and I tossed

zippyneedsawin · #11 03-10-2007, 07:51 PM

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Originally Posted by POINTGIVEN1985

how was he a single on paper ? doug oneil has been almost as hot as pletcher and his horse had alot of tactical speed, i liked him more then cq, the local horse, the # 2 got pounded the whole way in the betting i liked him better then cq, and i also liked the other pletcher horse better then cq, i know he won, but even after the fact i dont see how he was a single

He was by far the most accomplished, but as I said, I couldn't single him either.

hoovesupsideyourhead · #12 03-10-2007, 07:53 PM

my ticket was.,.7 with 3/7/8/11 with 1/7 with 1..dumb luck i guess but ill take it

hockey2315 · #13 03-10-2007, 08:23 PM

I definitely don't think CQ was a strong single. . . Still wouldn't if I could do it over again. . . But I still can't believe I didn't include the O'Neill filly. . . My east-coast bias clouds my judgment way too much sometimes. . .

POINTGIVEN1985 · #14 03-10-2007, 08:40 PM

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Originally Posted by zippyneedsawin

He was by far the most accomplished, but as I said, I couldn't single him either.

he is accomplished, but up to today everything that he accomplished was at 7f or shorter and in the hopeful at the spa he got a dream setup, those are some of the reassons why i dident even put him on my ticket today

POINTGIVEN1985 · #15 03-10-2007, 08:42 PM

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Originally Posted by hoovesupsideyourhead

my ticket was.,.7 with 3/7/8/11 with 1/7 with 1..dumb luck i guess but ill take it

my ticket was ...7/3,5,9,11/1,4/2,5... i was alive to the cq race and did not use him at all, dumb play i guess, but i really did not like him

zippyneedsawin · #16 03-10-2007, 08:48 PM

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Originally Posted by POINTGIVEN1985

he is accomplished, but up to today everything that he accomplished was at 7f or shorter and in the hopeful at the spa he got a dream setup, those are some of the reassons why i dident even put him on my ticket today

Obviously a big mistake. I understand trying to beat him, and also thought several others in the race that had a chance. But, I guess I don't necessarily equate accomplish with wins. CQ did finish 2nd in two other races last year, and those aren't bad accomplishments either.

blackthroatedwind · #17 03-10-2007, 08:51 PM

I'm not at all suprised Circular Quay won but I have no idea how he could have been considered a single. You make MUCH more money over time playing against horses like him than on them. I used him defensively ( and blew up with Get Ready Bertie ) but hardly considered him a single. Truth be told he was a bit of a sucker horse, bet heavily because of his connections, and not his pps.

hoovesupsideyourhead · #18 03-10-2007, 09:04 PM

agreed but..take into account the lack of field and the fact some of these gave there all last out..he didnt have to do much but stay out of trouble and time it right..imo

blackthroatedwind · #19 03-10-2007, 09:08 PM

He was pretty impressive. Not sure what to make of him at this point.

zippyneedsawin · #20 03-10-2007, 09:09 PM

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Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind

He was pretty impressive. Not sure what to make of him at this point.

I think that's about has much love that BTW is ever going to show this horse!