Magna Needs to be Eliminated...

sumitas · #1 06-23-2006, 01:52 AM

from the NYRA bidding consideration. talk about a callous, selfish, incompetent approach to horse racing, just look at the Preakness. Hustle the Kentucky Derby winner into the gate after Barbaro breaks through. Do not even evaluate the situation. Keep the millions bet on him. that's all they wanted. Then try to cover up their crime.

Horse racing does not need this cancer in NY.

I say reject them based on their performance and ELIMINATE them from whatever lies they float in the bidding process.

When in doubt, run the horse, screw the horse, screw the public. Magna, we do not want you in NY.

DiscreetCat=Monster · #2 06-23-2006, 01:56 AM

So does McDonalds did you see that movie SUPERSIZE ME?

sumitas · #3 06-23-2006, 02:07 AM

LOL. And we don't need MOMMY's boys from the NTRA to tell us what to do. These phonies suck. Horse racing will rule in NY...i hope.

God Bless that Whitney woman. She is our QUEEN.

JJP · #4 06-23-2006, 10:36 AM

You may not like Magna but would you rather have CDI? Hopefully neither Magna or CDI will get NYRA.

#5 06-23-2006, 12:08 PM

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Originally Posted by sumitas

from the NYRA bidding consideration. talk about a callous, selfish, incompetent approach to horse racing, just look at the Preakness. Hustle the Kentucky Derby winner into the gate after Barbaro breaks through. Do not even evaluate the situation. Keep the millions bet on him. that's all they wanted. Then try to cover up their crime.

Horse racing does not need this cancer in NY.

I say reject them based on their performance and ELIMINATE them from whatever lies they float in the bidding process.

When in doubt, run the horse, screw the horse, screw the public. Magna, we do not want you in NY.

This is the worst post that I have ever read in my life.

Magna is a good organization. They approach racing a little different but they are doing a good job. They spend money and understand that people who go to the track need different avenues for entertainment. If you own a business, you try and find ways to increase revenue. For example, I just do not want to do oil changes so I add other services. Magna wants people not only to gamble on horses but also on slots, spend money on dinner, shopping etc etc. He wants an entertainment complex. Now in some places this works--Santa Anita and Gulfstream but I dont think it would work in New York. But he would be better than NYRA. CDSI will be the front runner in the bidding process.

Scurlogue Champ · #6 06-23-2006, 12:11 PM

Agreed....... With Euro that is

Suffolk Shippers · #7 06-23-2006, 12:22 PM

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Originally Posted by sumitas

from the NYRA bidding consideration. talk about a callous, selfish, incompetent approach to horse racing, just look at the Preakness. Hustle the Kentucky Derby winner into the gate after Barbaro breaks through. Do not even evaluate the situation. Keep the millions bet on him. that's all they wanted. Then try to cover up their crime.

Horse racing does not need this cancer in NY.

I say reject them based on their performance and ELIMINATE them from whatever lies they float in the bidding process.

When in doubt, run the horse, screw the horse, screw the public. Magna, we do not want you in NY.

I dont think I am qualified enough to state the business likes of Magna, but making a baseless accusation that there was some crime committed on Preakness day is just off the wall. If the horse was injured they would not have put him back in the gate. Even if there was a question. Period. End of story.

What happened to Barbaro was terrible, but it wasn't Magna's fault.

#8 06-23-2006, 02:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Suffolk Shippers

I dont think I am qualified enough to state the business likes of Magna, but making a baseless accusation that there was some crime committed on Preakness day is just off the wall. If the horse was injured they would not have put him back in the gate. Even if there was a question. Period. End of story.

What happened to Barbaro was terrible, but it wasn't Magna's fault.

Well stated. Agree.
More than a bit of a stretch in linking those things.

Downthestretch55 · #9 06-23-2006, 02:22 PM

Sumitas,
I don't see the link to Magna with Barbaro's injury...
but I DO agree that NY racing has huge problems.
That huge takeout goes to fund the state's operating budget.
NYRA has done their share of damage but, seems to me, they've been against the wall for a long while.
And the "politics" continue....stupid, stupid stuff.
They'll wreck it with their wrangling...

http://news.bloodhorse.com/viewstory.asp?id=34117

DTS

sumitas · #10 06-23-2006, 02:26 PM

Yupper, 2 purely political appointments as a payback. These are the types of people in charge of horse racing in NY. Pathetic.

Downthestretch55 · #11 06-23-2006, 02:32 PM

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Originally Posted by sumitas

Yupper, 2 purely political appointments as a payback. These are the types of people in charge of horse racing in NY. Pathetic.

Pathetic!!!
At least now that the curtain has been pushed aside, some of the organizations that have a lot to do with NY racing will come in to show some outrage about this charade.
Rile 'em up! (owners, breeders, farms)
Make 'em answer for the nonsense (politicos)
Muck the stalls...cause if ya don't ...the stink gets very bad fast.

So, who do you think Magna is buying?

#12 06-23-2006, 03:42 PM

I also thought they put barbaro back in the gate much to quick without the benefit of a vet looking him over. It looked like all Stronach cared about was the handle by putting him back in the gate as fast as they did.

Cajungator26 · #13 06-23-2006, 03:43 PM

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Originally Posted by david1025

I also thought they put barbaro back in the gate much to quick without the benefit of a vet looking him over. It looked like all Stronach cared about was the handle by putting him back in the gate as fast as they did.

I don't know who called the shots regarding that, but I thought Barbaro was put back in too quickly as well. JMO.

SCUDSBROTHER · #14 06-23-2006, 04:40 PM

Arrogant Austrian can't pass on soon enough for me.His legacy will be the poor redesign of the course at Gulfstream.You'll notice this guy will always say he had no part in these decisions(whatever it is that is f'd up by Magna.)Don't let this Nazi Youth type get ahold of your racing in New York. You will end up paying more,and getting less anytime this guy is involved.

Downthestretch55 · #15 06-23-2006, 04:51 PM

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Originally Posted by SCUDSBROTHER

Arrogant Austrian can't pass on soon enough for me.His legacy will be the poor redesign of the course at Gulfstream.You'll notice this guy will always say he had no part in these decisions(whatever it is that is f'd up by Magna.)Don't let this Nazi Youth type get ahold of your racing in New York. You will end up paying more,and getting less anytime this guy is involved.

Scuds,
Don't get me wrong, i'm not saying that Frank S is buying the NY politicians.
They're up for sale to everyone.
"Good whores go to the highest bidders."

The real shame of it is that Gov Pataki and Joe Bruno (repubs both) are setting up (read "pimping") for this.
Now, I DID say that!
DTS

#16 06-23-2006, 08:35 PM

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Originally Posted by david1025

I also thought they put barbaro back in the gate much to quick without the benefit of a vet looking him over. It looked like all Stronach cared about was the handle by putting him back in the gate as fast as they did.

So he was put into the gate too fast...AND they had time to call Stronach and get his personal direction for the decision?

No offense to you personally. I just found your post the easiest to use to make my point.

People with an agenda will always find some justification. Frank Stronach caused Barbaro to break down. And is a Nazi to boot. None of that is over the top. Not at all.

I guess he should count himself lucky he isn't Arab. At least he isn't (so far) being blamed for 9/11.

Danzig · #17 06-23-2006, 08:42 PM

the vet at the track said he did look barbaro over. that many at home watching may not have gotten the impression that he did, but that he did check out the horse. i really thought this issue would be put to rest by now. dr richardson himself said the gate had nothing to do with the injury. why is it still being pushed as an issue?

Downthestretch55 · #18 06-23-2006, 09:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Danzig188

the vet at the track said he did look barbaro over. that many at home watching may not have gotten the impression that he did, but that he did check out the horse. i really thought this issue would be put to rest by now. dr richardson himself said the gate had nothing to do with the injury. why is it still being pushed as an issue?

DUH me! Duh me! Danzig, correct me if I'm wrong cause I must be very stupid, maybe even "retarded". I thought this thread was about the bidding that's going on for control of NYRA tracks. I don't know how I let it go off topic. I really don't. I must be very STUPID!!!!
Somehow, Barbaro came into someone's thoughts...
Is he trying to take over the NY tracks??? Or am I just too stupid to put that connection together? DUHHH! I'm puzzled.
DTS

Danzig · #19 06-23-2006, 10:44 PM

just another thread that started out one way, and quickly veered off another trail. go figure.

but saying magna had anything to do with barbaros injury would be like saying gm or ford is responsible when you get a flat tire.

now i'll probably get blasted for comparing his injury to a flat.....

Danzig · #20 06-23-2006, 10:51 PM

actually, i think magna haters just jump on any and every opportunity to blast the company. similar to any and every problem being blamed on the opposing political party from their own...

of course i really can't say that the barbaro discussion is a side track, it is mentioned in the original post of this thread. but i don't see any connection between the two. nor do i think barbaros injury is an indication of magna being an 'evil empire'. it's a business just like any other--one that hopefully will make money for its owners. if it is a bad business, then like any other it will fail.