Handcapping weight.

[2Hot4TV]

Between races today at Santa Anita some of the poeple in the paddock were arguing about weight making a differance.

When the horses walked pass us I said I really liked the #5 Turnbolt in this race.

My fellow handicapper said he looked heavy, alittle over weight to him.

I said I don't consider the weight when I handicap.

Originally Posted by 2Hot4TV

Between races today at Santa Anita some of the poeple in the paddock were arguing about weight making a differance.

When the horses walked pass us I said I really liked the #5 Turnbolt in this race.

My fellow handicapper said he looked heavy, alittle over weight to him.

I said I don't consider the weight when I handicap.

Well when i'm betting Hong Kong I always check the weight of the horse. It's a shame that information isn't readily available in basic pp's in the states.

[paisjpq]

Originally Posted by Pillow Pants

Well when i'm betting Hong Kong I always check the weight of the horse. It's a shame that information isn't readily available in basic pp's in the states.

really? why?
a number on paper won't actually tell you anything about the horse. there is no ideal weight...it's not like supermodels where they all have to be a size 0.

I do agree about sometimes a horse looking heavy or soft...and that CAN make a difference because it is an indicator of fitness...but I don't see how weight is.

Originally Posted by paisjpq

really? why?
a number on paper won't actually tell you anything about the horse. there is no ideal weight...it's not like supermodels where they all have to be a size 0.

Well whenever I get a cold or the shits I usually drop a few pounds and horses are no different. The listed weight of the horse just helps in figuring out if the horse is on top of his game or not.

[Sightseek]

Originally Posted by paisjpq

really? why?
a number on paper won't actually tell you anything about the horse. there is no ideal weight...it's not like supermodels where they all have to be a size 0.

But wouldn't most horses have an individual average weight that would be useful in knowing? Say the horse was coming into a race after a some-what hard campaign (ie. the Belmont following the Preak/Derby & a few preps) and was at a lesser weight..wouldn't it affect his performance?

[paisjpq]

Originally Posted by Pillow Pants

Well whenever I get a cold or the shits I usually drop a few pounds and horses are no different. The listed weight of the horse just helps in figuring out if the horse is on top of his game or not.

I don't ever look at the pp's for HK do they list the weight at each start so you can chart change?

Originally Posted by paisjpq

I don't ever look at the pp's for HK do they list the weight at each start so you can chart change?

They did the last time I played. That was last summer, however.

[Sightseek]

Originally Posted by paisjpq

really? why?
a number on paper won't actually tell you anything about the horse. there is no ideal weight...it's not like supermodels where they all have to be a size 0.

I do agree about sometimes a horse looking heavy or soft...and that CAN make a difference because it is an indicator of fitness...but I don't see how weight is.

Got ya, you added this part later. And so when a trainer says a horse didn't hold his weight, it was muscle mass he was losing.

[paisjpq]

Originally Posted by Pillow Pants

They did the last time I played. That was last summer, however.

ok...if they do that then I guess it might make some sense though I'm not sure I would find it useful.

[paisjpq]

Originally Posted by Sightseek

Got ya, you added this part later. And so when a trainer says a horse didn't hold his weight, it was muscle mass he was losing.

the thing is that unless I was actually looking at the horse i wouldn't trust the number enough to know what it was telling me...if that makes any sense.