Discreet Cat's future

ceejay · #1 03-31-2007, 02:03 PM

I hope I'm wrong but I do not think he'll race again-- I'll forgive a clunker. To the shed he goes....

Hickory Hill Hoff · #2 03-31-2007, 02:04 PM

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Originally Posted by ceejay

I hope I'm wrong but I do not think he'll race again-- I'll forgive a clunker. To the shed he goes....

Retiremet

randallscott35 · #3 03-31-2007, 02:05 PM

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Originally Posted by ceejay

I hope I'm wrong but I do not think he'll race again-- I'll forgive a clunker. To the shed he goes....

The Greek version of the Cat?

Hickory Hill Hoff · #4 03-31-2007, 02:07 PM

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Originally Posted by randallscott35

The Greek version of the Cat?

Good one!

POINTGIVEN1985 · #5 03-31-2007, 02:07 PM

im sure they will say there was some type of injury and retire him

Dunbar · #6 03-31-2007, 02:08 PM

He's already run 7 times. We all know he's done enough.

--Dunbar

Danzig · #7 03-31-2007, 02:17 PM

i hope he runs again....that was not the same horse who had gone undefeated to this point, who made such an explosive move there a year ago to win the uae derby...i'd hate to see him go out like that...
it's a shame that so many are going to bash the horse for todays uncharacteristic run, instead of giving him the benefit of the doubt. he was a poor imitation of himself today, and should not be judged off one poor effort!!

randallscott35 · #8 03-31-2007, 02:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Dunbar

He's already run 7 times. We all know he's done enough.

--Dunbar

Yes, he's about as sound as.....Ghostzapper. He'd be on pace for about that many starts if he continues his career.

hoovesupsideyourhead · #9 03-31-2007, 02:36 PM

i could see him coming to toga..

Pedigree Ann · #10 03-31-2007, 02:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Danzig

it's a shame that so many are going to bash the horse for todays uncharacteristic run, instead of giving him the benefit of the doubt. he was a poor imitation of himself today, and should not be judged off one poor effort!!

It's the people who have been saying how great he is, and how he could come off of a long layoff in his first race at 10f and still air to this field, because he is just that superior and special, that has fueled any backlash. It's pretty clear the horse wasn't ready for this strong a race and shouldn't have started. Even 'superstars' need conditioning to be ready for the really big races.

ALostTexan · #11 03-31-2007, 02:52 PM

I think it comes down to the fact that he cannot go over a mile. He is a great horse around a mile, but to go much over, especially a 1 1/4, is beyond him.

I, like everyone else, hopes that he doesn't have an "injury" and makes it back to the track, but who knows. He will probably be hanging out with Bernardini talking about the good ole' days after their first major loss...

ALostTexan

Seattleallstar · #12 03-31-2007, 03:41 PM

boy those arabs sure could train, what the hell were they thinking bringing him into the DWC the way they did and hope to win

my miss storm cat · #13 03-31-2007, 04:16 PM

From Godolphin.....

DISCREET CAT DOES NOT SPARKLE
31 March 2007

Godolphin’s Discreet Cat, one of the leading hopes for the 12th running of Dubai World Cup, failed to show his true form, trailing in last of the seven runners in the 10-furlong race on dirt.

Frankie Dettori broke well on Discreet Cat before holding up the four-year-old in sixth place on the inside at Nad Al Sheba on March 31.

The four-year-old then raced at the rear of the field in the world’s richest race as Forty Licks took them along.

Turning for home, Discreet Cat was asked to make some progress when switched to the outside but swung slightly wide into the straight and could make no impression on those ahead of him in the run to the line.

He was beaten a total of 23 lengths by Invasor who took the World Cup in determined fashion from Premium Tap for owner H.H. Sheikh Hamdan bin Rashid Al Maktown, trainer Kiaran McLaughlin and jockey Fernando Jara.

Simon Crisford, the Godolphin racing manager, reported that Discreet Cat seemed alright after the race.

He declared: “Discreet Cat has run way below form - I don’t know why. He was never going a yard - it was a big surprise to us but that’s racing.

“We will give him some time out now and then get him back to America. It was very disappointing but all the good champions get beaten at some point and he will be back.”

Saeed bin Suroor, the Godolphin trainer, added: “It doesn’t look like Discreet Cat stays the distance and we will drop him back to a mile.

It was a disappointing performance tonight and we will see how the horse comes out of the race before making firm plans.”

Frankie Dettori commented: “He never ran his race - he was beaten before the turn for home.”

Left Bank · #14 03-31-2007, 04:30 PM

There are a ton of mile races for this guy this summer.I do NOT think they will retire him.The battle between the sheiks will continue.

Merlinsky · #15 03-31-2007, 05:06 PM

I don't buy the distance limitation thing off of this effort--you can certainly make the argument in general but I don't think this proves it. I don't think he'd have run well today whatever the distance. If they'd like to think making it a mile would've been the difference they can go on and think that. I smelled a stinker from the second he left the gate and was kinda disappointed for a moment until I realized Invasor and Premium Tap were obviously going to deliver. I feel kinda proud of Premium Tap, I know that's weird, but I loved feeling good about him after his initial upset win last year and he continues to reward.

Danzig · #16 03-31-2007, 06:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Pedigree Ann

It's the people who have been saying how great he is, and how he could come off of a long layoff in his first race at 10f and still air to this field, because he is just that superior and special, that has fueled any backlash. It's pretty clear the horse wasn't ready for this strong a race and shouldn't have started. Even 'superstars' need conditioning to be ready for the really big races.

i think his minor illness that caused him to scratch a few weeks back might have something to do with it..he wasn't ready for a grueling race against the best in the world today...he's done well off a layoff in the past, but not against this type of competition...his return in the states looked good--but he should have looked good with who he faced that day. i understand there will be backlash, but to say he's no good is moving too far in the other direction.

Swale84 · #17 03-31-2007, 09:04 PM

I doubt if he will ever race again

Travis Stone · #18 03-31-2007, 10:35 PM

Isn't it sad that everyone's (including myself) initial reaction to a poor performance is: when is the retirement party.

randallscott35 · #19 03-31-2007, 10:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Travis Stone

Isn't it sad that everyone's (including myself) initial reaction to a poor performance is: when is the retirement party.

Yes but that is the way horse racing is these days. A horse can be undefeated, have one bad performance and rather than chalking it up to a really bad day, he needs to be retired. A shame really. If something isn't physically wrong I sure hope he sticks around.

Left Bank · #20 03-31-2007, 10:50 PM

I have this gut feeling that he will stick around.I don't think they will let him go out on such a bad note.There are a lot of races in New York this summer where he could clean up.