Derby site blog about Hard Spun

[Samarta]

So I was on KentuckyDerby.com and one of the handicappers had posted some interesting info about Hard Spun. He said that one of his sources who was a private clocker pointed out to him that Hard Spun has looked sore and stiff since his arrival at Churchill and because of that info he wasn't going to include Hard Spun in any of his Derby picks. The problem with that is he (Hard Spun) isn't at Churchill yet. He is scheduled to arrive today. A couple of people called him on it and he made matters worse with his response, saying that he knew where the horse was stabled and he never said he was at Churchill to begin with. When I responded with his comment in quotes and the fact that people rely on these handicappers for their expert opinions and he got it wrong and made it worse by trying to cover up, my post never appeared and when I went to repost, I got an message saying I wasn't authorized to reply and then the blog was gone.....I just find that interesting and disappointing at the same time...

CDI hired kyroses?

[sundaysilenceforever]

I had heard about this late last night, but didn't have a chance to check it out. Do you feel comfortable sharing which blogger it was? It would be nice to know which one I have been reading all this time should now be re-evaluated!

[Downthestretch55]

Originally Posted by sundaysilenceforever

I had heard about this late last night, but didn't have a chance to check it out. Do you feel comfortable sharing which blogger it was? It would be nice to know which one I have been reading all this time should now be re-evaluated!

Thoroghbredjunkie's letter has some interesting points, a few that I agree with. Thanks for putting it up.

[Citizen 1101]

Replying to comments on Kentuckyderby.com is almost impossible. The site kept asking me to log in although I was already logged in and when I finally got to a page that allowed me to post my comments, it kicked me back to the home page. I wrote someone at Churchill about how difficult it is to actually reply to comments on that site.

The blogger in question was Justin Dew. There's no telling who his "private clocker" might be. It could have just as well been a hot walker with a wrist watch. You would think that he'd be a little more detailed in his writing. Maybe he's just trying to push the odds up on Hard Spun by reporting shoddy, second hand information.

[Samarta]

Originally Posted by Citizen 1101

Replying to comments on Kentuckyderby.com is almost impossible. The site kept asking me to log in although I was already logged in and when I finally got to a page that allowed me to post my comments, it kicked me back to the home page. I wrote someone at Churchill about how difficult it is to actually reply to comments on that site.

The blogger in question was Justin Dew. There's no telling who his "private clocker" might be. It could have just as well been a hot walker with a wrist watch. You would think that he'd be a little more detailed in his writing. Maybe he's just trying to push the odds up on Hard Spun by reporting shoddy, second hand information.

I didn't have any trouble replying, when I submitted is when things got a little suspect. My first post went through then was gone, when I tried to post again, I got an error saying I wasn't authorized, and when I tried the third time the entire thread was gone....the whole chain of events just stunk....when whoever tried to cover it up is when it got really stupid, because when he replied to one poster, he said he was simply commenting on his work at Churchill....HS's on work to date at Churchill was a 5F bullet. so imo opinion and I apologize if any knows him personally, I don't care what his credentials are, his opinion means nothing.

I have no idea if I'm going to use Hard Spun in any picks, but I still consider him one of the top tier horses in this year's Derby and if he gets a good break and is up on the lead coming out of the first turn, he could be really tough to beat.

With so many intanglibles in this years Derby.....preps on poly, time between preps, etc....it's a shame that one of the so called experts can cloud the picture even more....

[sundaysilenceforever]

Originally Posted by Citizen 1101

The blogger in question was Justin Dew. There's no telling who his "private clocker" might be. It could have just as well been a hot walker with a wrist watch. You would think that he'd be a little more detailed in his writing. Maybe he's just trying to push the odds up on Hard Spun by reporting shoddy, second hand information.

I was afraid of that. I am always entertained with the things he has to say. Now I am just disappointed.

[Cajungator26]

Originally Posted by Samarta

So I was on KentuckyDerby.com and one of the handicappers had posted some interesting info about Hard Spun. He said that one of his sources who was a private clocker pointed out to him that Hard Spun has looked sore and stiff since his arrival at Churchill and because of that info he wasn't going to include Hard Spun in any of his Derby picks. The problem with that is he (Hard Spun) isn't at Churchill yet. He is scheduled to arrive today. A couple of people called him on it and he made matters worse with his response, saying that he knew where the horse was stabled and he never said he was at Churchill to begin with. When I responded with his comment in quotes and the fact that people rely on these handicappers for their expert opinions and he got it wrong and made it worse by trying to cover up, my post never appeared and when I went to repost, I got an message saying I wasn't authorized to reply and then the blog was gone.....I just find that interesting and disappointing at the same time...

TOO FUNNY... I tried to reply last night at around 9pm and got the same response... you know why?

Because the guy is an idiot and can't admit his mistake. In his original article, he stated that Zanjero and Curlin were taking to the Churchill surface well and when I tried to respond to the dumbass that the above two were at Keeneland, it wouldn't let me respond. Such a load of shiat... any respect I had for his opinion just went out the door! LOL

[Cajungator26]

Originally Posted by Pillow Pants

CDI hired kyroses?

Same thing I thought! LMFAO!!!

[Samarta]

Originally Posted by Cajungator26

TOO FUNNY... I tried to reply last night at around 9pm and got the same response... you know why?

Because the guy is an idiot and can't admit his mistake. In his original article, he stated that Zanjero and Curlin were taking to the Churchill surface well and when I tried to respond to the dumbass that the above two were at Keeneland, it wouldn't let me respond. Such a load of shiat... any respect I had for his opinion just went out the door! LOL

I just have this vision of him standing over one of the site developers and sweating while they play safety and intercept all the incoming posts.....

[Cajungator26]

Originally Posted by Samarta

I just have this vision of him standing over one of the site developers and sweating while they play safety and intercept all the incoming posts.....

Yep, his credibility is GONE. I can see him saying that to try and get the odds on Hard Spun higher... I can't fathom someone being that ignorant that he'd actually be serious.

[brianwspencer]

Originally Posted by Cajungator26

Yep, his credibility is GONE. I can see him saying that to try and get the odds on Hard Spun higher... I can't fathom someone being that ignorant that he'd actually be serious.

I went to check him out, and because his crowning achievement and bio line states that he's hit three consecutive Derby exactas, I realized I should be blogging there too.

For no other reason than the fact that I think pretty much anyone would agree that my nailing the sevenfecta two years running trumps his measly claim. And of course, Jamie, I'm going to hit it again this year.

[Samarta]

Originally Posted by Cajungator26

Yep, his credibility is GONE. I can see him saying that to try and get the odds on Hard Spun higher... I can't fathom someone being that ignorant that he'd actually be serious.

The part that really got me laughing was when he made the comment about knowing he was at Keeneland and was only referring to Hard Spun's work at Churchill a couple of weeks ago....but he forgot that it was a 5F bullet that couldn't have gone any better.....what a douchebag.....

[Scurlogue Champ]

Originally Posted by Pillow Pants

CDI hired kyroses?

That is mfing hilarious...

[hockey2315]

With the apprehension that Hard Spun's connections have shown deciding whether or not to go to the Derby I doubt they'd even go if he wasn't 100%. Justin Dew's blog should be taken off the site. . .

[sundaysilenceforever]

Originally Posted by Samarta

I just have this vision of him standing over one of the site developers and sweating while they play safety and intercept all the incoming posts.....

I was envisioning that too....the filtering of blog responses to only those that glorify him! I have now returned to being entertained from feeling disappointment because of this thread....LOL

[philcski]

From his work this morning, sounds like he was "real sore" and "not handling the track well"

Guys like this chump are a dime a dozen.

[eagles725]

From Bloodhorse.com:

Richard Porter’s Hard Spun scorched the Churchill Downs main track Monday morning, blazing five furlongs in :57 3/5 under regular rider Mario Pino. Hard Spun worked in company, for a while at least, with graded stakes winner Wildcat Bettie B.

Trainer Larry Jones sent out Hard Spun and Wildcat Bettie B. at the gap near the one-mile chute promptly at 8:30 a.m. just after the renovation break. Jones then sprinted to the clocker’s stand to catch the action. He had to hurry.

Hard Spun went in fractions of :11, :22, :33 2/5, :45, and :57 3/5. He was caught galloping out six furlongs in 1:11 2/5. Hard Spun quickly separated himself from his workmate on the turn and was well ahead at the wire. Wildcat Bettie B. was ridden by jockey Joe Johnson.

Back at Barn 41 there were plenty of smiles from Jones, Pino, and Porter.

“Apparently he really liked the track,” said Jones. “He just got over it really well. I don’t know how I could be much happier. Mr. Porter, are you happy?”

“I’m happy,” Porter responded.

“Then I’m happy,” Jones shot back quickly.

“We put her (Wildcat Bettie B.) out there to where they would both stay in the bit,” Jones said. “She didn’t realize she bit off more than she could chew. Joe’s comment was, ‘I’ve never seen a horse work that easy that fast.’ He said he had real good view from where he was.”

It was by far the fastest work of the morning of 26 recorded at the distance. The next fastest time for five furlongs was :59 2/5 recorded by Ice Boyz.

“He has tendency to loaf a little bit,” Pino said. “When he got about a length on her, he started pricking his ears out there down the stretch. He was just floating in. Believe me, I didn’t think he was going that fast. I was real happy with the way he was going over the racetrack.”

Hard Spun, a son of Danzig, out of the Turkoman mare Turkish Tryst, was not started since winning the Lane’s End Stakes (gr. II) at Turfway Park March 24. He has won five of six career starts and has earned $473,470. His lone defeat came in the one-mile Southwest Stakes at Oaklawn Park Feb. 19. He was bred in Pennsylvania by Michael Moran and Brushwood Stable.

[my miss storm cat]

Originally Posted by Samarta

that Hard Spun has looked sore and stiff since his arrival at Churchill

As an aside, if that were true.....

http://local.lancasteronline.com/4/203163

[philcski]

Originally Posted by my miss storm cat

As an aside, if that were true.....

http://local.lancasteronline.com/4/203163

I could use this service, couldn't you?