Where is Upstate NY...

estreetposse · #1 05-09-2007, 02:33 PM

This could get interesting!!!

saucon17 · #2 05-09-2007, 02:34 PM

Like I just said FINGER LAKES region

estreetposse · #3 05-09-2007, 02:35 PM

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Originally Posted by saucon17

Like I just said FINGER LAKES region

I know what you said silly...didn't want to hijack the the argu...Met Mile thread.

ARyan · #4 05-09-2007, 02:40 PM

Bring on the debate!! Hahaha!

Finger Lakes to me, is either Central or Western, NY.

Albany/Adirondacks north (you could get away with Utica), Upstate.
Syracuse, Central.
Roch/Buffalo, Western.
Binghampton/Elmira/Catskills, Southern.

This is an debate that can go on and on.

I just started saying I am from VT, since I am closer to VT then any place that gets thrown at you when you say you are from NY or Upstate, NY.

"Oh Saratoga/Lake George, that's near Niagara Falls right? Oh it is not? Oh so near the City are you?."
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saucon17 · #5 05-09-2007, 02:46 PM

Man I wish my sister was on DT arguing about upstate NY. She went to Ithaca College and Rochester U an always referred to those two places as upstate NY. I can see Rochester as upstate NY because if you go any further north you would be swimming in Lake Ontario.

tycharles01 · #6 05-09-2007, 02:47 PM

Don't get Jay Cronley going. He gets mad fast but he is a great handicapper just look at thos derby picks

pmacdaddy · #7 05-09-2007, 02:49 PM

I'm originally from Albany, now live on Long Island.

In my mind "upstate" is anything North of the Tappan Zee Bridge.

Guess it is all relative. My folks in Binghamton always point out, if they were any further "down" they would be in PA.

philcski · #8 05-09-2007, 02:50 PM

This is a terrible definition.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Upstate_New_York

What the REAL (MY) definition is:

Long Island: Nassau, Suffolk counties
New York City: New York, Queens, Kings, Richmond, Bronx counties
Hudson Region: Westchester, Rockland, Orange, Dutchess, Putnam counties
Catskills: Delaware, Greene, Sullivan, Ulster, Columbia counties
Capital District: Albany, Rensselaer, Saratoga, Schenectady, Washington counties
Northern/Adirondacks: Warren, Essex, Clinton, Franklin, Hamilton, Fulton, Lewis, St. Lawrence, Jefferson counties
Central: Montgomery, Schoharie, Otsego, Oneida, Herkimer, Madison, Chenango, Broome, Tioga, Cortland, Onandaga, Oswego counties
Finger Lakes: Cayuga, Wayne, Tompkins, Chemung, Schuyler, Yates, Seneca, Ontario, Stuben counties
Western: Monroe, Livingston, Orleans, Genesee, Wyoming, Allegany, Niagara, Erie, Cattaragus, Chatauqua counties

ARyan · #9 05-09-2007, 02:56 PM

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Originally Posted by saucon17

Man I wish my sister was on DT arguing about upstate NY. She went to Ithaca College and Rochester U an always referred to those two places as upstate NY. I can see Rochester as upstate NY because if you go any further north you would be swimming in Lake Ontario.

To me Rochester is Western.

If you say Rochester is Upstate and not Western, what would you call Canton or Thousand Islands? Artic New York?

ARyan · #10 05-09-2007, 02:58 PM

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Originally Posted by philcski

This is a terrible definition.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Upstate_New_York

What the REAL (MY) definition is:

Long Island: Nassau, Suffolk counties
New York City: New York, Queens, Kings, Richmond, Bronx counties
Hudson Region: Westchester, Rockland, Orange, Dutchess, Putnam counties
Catskills: Delaware, Greene, Sullivan, Ulster, Columbia counties
Capital District: Albany, Rensselaer, Saratoga, Schenectady, Washington counties
Northern/Adirondacks: Warren, Essex, Clinton, Franklin, Hamilton, Fulton, Lewis, St. Lawrence, Jefferson counties
Central: Montgomery, Schoharie, Otsego, Oneida, Herkimer, Madison, Chenango, Broome, Tioga, Cortland, Onandaga, Oswego counties
Finger Lakes: Cayuga, Wayne, Tompkins, Chemung, Schuyler, Yates, Seneca, Ontario, Stuben counties
Western: Monroe, Livingston, Orleans, Genesee, Wyoming, Allegany, Niagara, Erie, Cattaragus, Chatauqua counties

I agree with your statement, excpet for Washington County. Washington borders VT and if far north of Albany, and is very rural, labeling it with Albany, Rensselaer, Schnectady and Saratoga make it seem more urban. Let's be honest, Washington County's cow population is larger then the human population, even if you doubled the human popluation.

philcski · #11 05-09-2007, 02:59 PM

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Originally Posted by ARyan

To me Rochester is Western.

If you say Rochester is Upstate and not Western, what would you call Canton or Thousand Islands? Artic New York?

See above. Canton = St. Lawrence County, right? "Northern/Adirondacks"

saucon17 · #12 05-09-2007, 02:59 PM

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Originally Posted by ARyan

To me Rochester is Western.

If you say Rochester is Upstate and not Western, what would you call Canton or Thousand Islands? Artic New York?

More like the BOONDOCKS

ARyan · #13 05-09-2007, 03:01 PM

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Originally Posted by saucon17

More like the BOONDOCKS

Haha, true, what would you call those that live there? We called them "Woodchucks." LOL

philcski · #14 05-09-2007, 03:02 PM

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Originally Posted by ARyan

I agree with your statement, excpet for Washington County. Washington borders VT and if far north of Albany, and is very rural, labeling it with Albany, Rensselaer, Schnectady and Saratoga make it seem more urban. Let's be honest, Washington County it has more cows then if you double the human population.

Oh, I know. I got a flat tire there once and the hillbilly that changed it for me was like a NASCAR pit guy. But it's a big county, doesn't really fit the Adirondacks, so it gets put with Saratoga/Capital. The Albany newspaper gets delivered there, I'm guessing? Sniper?

Let's be honest... much of Saratoga County is rural as well.

ARyan · #15 05-09-2007, 03:03 PM

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Originally Posted by philcski

See above. Canton = St. Lawrence County, right? "Northern/Adirondacks"

Yes.

ARyan · #16 05-09-2007, 03:03 PM

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Originally Posted by philcski

Oh, I know. I got a flat tire there once and the hillbilly that changed it for me was like a NASCAR pit guy. But it's a big county, doesn't really fit the Adirondacks, so it gets put with Saratoga/Capital. The Albany newspaper gets delivered there, I'm guessing? Sniper?

Let's be honest... much of Saratoga County is rural as well.

Post Star out of Glens Falls (Warren County) is the main paper of Washington County. If anything it fits with Warren County.

I grew up and still work in Washington County.

philcski · #17 05-09-2007, 03:05 PM

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Originally Posted by ARyan

Post Star out of Glens Falls (Warren County) is the main paper of Washington County. If anything it fits with Warren County.

How about we just give it to Vermont?

Downthestretch55 · #18 05-09-2007, 03:14 PM

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Originally Posted by estreetposse

This could get interesting!!!

I'm not sure if you're kidding or really want an answer.
Since I live "upstate" (Delaware county in the Catskills), it seems to me and my friends that live in the Big Apple, that anything north of Westchester is "upstate". Get on the New York Thruway and once you get past Suffern, you'll see it. Actually, you can't miss it.
I hope this helps.
DTS

Storm Cadet · #19 05-09-2007, 03:15 PM

anything north of Yonkers and George Washington Bridge is upstate to me.

ARyan · #20 05-09-2007, 03:18 PM

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Originally Posted by philcski

How about we just give it to Vermont?

Believe it or not, my Juinor High/Senior High School had Vermont students that came to New York for schooling.

So giving it to Vermont would be a fair agreement.