Nash is a baby...

[IrishofNDMan]

I know he got checked by Horry pretty hard, but watch him throw his arms up and flop, he should grow a pair.

Tim Duncan was choke city the last 2:30. He's way too soft at times to be considered amongst the top players in the history of the game.

Originally Posted by DaHoss9698

How about Vince Carter's 4th quarter performance last night. It almost looked like he was trying to throw the game. Is there a more overrated player in the game?

Well Lebron tried to give it to them...Vince wanted no part of it.

Detroit could start 3 against 5 and beat both of those teams in 5.

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by Pillow Pants

Well Lebron tried to give it to them...Vince wanted no part of it.

Detroit could start 3 against 5 and beat both of those teams in 5.

Cleveland is a bad matchup for Detroit. If Cavs can contain Billips then I believe they can win.

Originally Posted by Pillow Pants

Tim Duncan was choke city the last 2:30. He's way too soft at times to be considered amongst the top players in the history of the game.

This is really funny. The Spurs are Tim Duncan. He gives so many players opportunities to be good. No way Parker or Ginobili make the Allstar team without a guy like Duncan. One game does not make a series. Nash had his off game and now he comes back and makes all the big shots. Duncan has done the same thing before, had a bad game at the end, followed by a great game at the end. This is the mark of a real player. Lets see how Duncan finishes the series. The best hands of any big man ever. Enjoy it now as you will not see this type of hand eye coordination from a man this big again.

Phoenix played a hell of a game. They hit their shots and the Spurs did not in crunch time. Hats off to the Suns. They showed tremendous grit in that game. Raja Bell and Kurt Thomas have had a huge toughness impact on this team. Nash is a wonderful competitor. I really like the way Phoenix plays now as opposed to prior years. Hope this goes 7 as it is great basketball and really fun to watch for me. This is by far the best series of any played so far, its not even close.

Stoudamire and Diaw suspended for game 5 and Horry.

I understand the rules about coming off the bench but I really wish these guys would play (except Horry). This series is too much fun to watch.

[somerfrost]

Originally Posted by pgardn

Stoudamire and Diaw suspended for game 5 and Horry.

I understand the rules about coming off the bench but I really wish these guys would play (except Horry). This series is too much fun to watch.

Well, rules are rules but this is a huge hit for the Suns...the fan in me is very disappointed but behavior must have consequences (well, it always does but you know...).

[docicu3]

They will never amend this rule....2 steps from the bench......bang!!! 1 game vacation no exceptions!!

As long as Stern is king ain't no change in the rules that stem from "The Brawl"...

Sorry but Robert Horry sits with the others and someone needs to geld Bruce Bowen while we're talking about dirty defense!!!!!



"And the Bill Lambeer award for NBA sportsman of the year goes to .......Bruce Bowen".......(presenting the award in the spirit of good sportsmanship representing the NBA "Mr Technical" himself Rasheed Wallace)......

Originally Posted by pgardn

This is really funny. The Spurs are Tim Duncan. He gives so many players opportunities to be good. No way Parker or Ginobili make the Allstar team without a guy like Duncan. One game does not make a series. Nash had his off game and now he comes back and makes all the big shots. Duncan has done the same thing before, had a bad game at the end, followed by a great game at the end. This is the mark of a real player. Lets see how Duncan finishes the series. The best hands of any big man ever. Enjoy it now as you will not see this type of hand eye coordination from a man this big again.

Phoenix played a hell of a game. They hit their shots and the Spurs did not in crunch time. Hats off to the Suns. They showed tremendous grit in that game. Raja Bell and Kurt Thomas have had a huge toughness impact on this team. Nash is a wonderful competitor. I really like the way Phoenix plays now as opposed to prior years. Hope this goes 7 as it is great basketball and really fun to watch for me. This is by far the best series of any played so far, its not even close.

Hey i've got the Spurs-Pistons on a future bet and if the last game for both teams is any indication of what lies ahead...i'm screwed.

I hope they step it up. They're forcing me to watch the games now and i'm not happy with what i'm seeing.

Utah looks deadly.

Originally Posted by Pillow Pants

Hey i've got the Spurs-Pistons on a future bet and if the last game for both teams is any indication of what lies ahead...i'm screwed.

I hope they step it up. They're forcing me to watch the games now and i'm not happy with what i'm seeing.

Utah looks deadly.

Utah is an ugly tough team just like the Spurs.
Phoenix is finally playing defense and I am also worried for a diff. reason. They did not give up, which is something to be admired. Chicago has found a way to score but I think its a bit too late. Detroit is acting like the fat cat again, they have done this before.

The Phoenix/Spurs series so far has been great entertainment and very good basketball. Two very good teams in diff. ways. I must give credit to Phoenix because they were so easy before, they just crumbled. They finally played very determined defensively at the end of a game.
I also am amused as the Spurs have always been considered soft. Cant win with David Robinson, too nice. Cant win with Duncan, too nice. Cant win with Parker, too nice. And now one would think the Spurs are the Oakland Raiders. Its funny. We are an old team playing a young strong pup and pulling out all the tricks being overmatched athletically.
If the Spurs do not do something significant in the off-season it will be a long rebuilding period. We are flat out old and experience only goes so far.

Originally Posted by somerfrost

Well, rules are rules but this is a huge hit for the Suns...the fan in me is very disappointed but behavior must have consequences (well, it always does but you know...).

I wish Horry had not been such an idiot. I want to watch the best players. I realize what must happen, but your statement bolded above is my gut feeling.

[King Glorious]

Coach K, in his book "Leading With the Heart", said this:

"Too many rules get in the way of leadership. They just put you in a box and, sooner or later, a rule-happy leader will wind up in a situation where he wants to use some discretion but is forced to go along with some decree that he himself has concocted. The truth is that many people set rules to keep from making decisions. Not me. I don't want to be a manager or a dictator. I want to be a leader---and leadership is ongoing, adjustable, flexible, and dynamic. As such, leaders have to maintain a certain amount of discretion. The fact that I don't have a hard and fast rule gives me flexibility in cases like these. It provides me the latitude to lead. It also allows me to show that I care about the kids on my team and it demonstrates that I'm trying to be fair-minded.

David Stern should read this.

[SCUDSBROTHER]

http://www.youtube.com/results?searc...&search=Search

Just amazes me that this piece of trash gets to play,and Phoenix loses top players (because another Spur piece of trash had to do his cheap shot.)Well,PGRDN,this is why I despise your team.Nothing of any class whatsoever about that organization.If it had any,then they wouldn't want these thugz playing for them.You have had this thug Bowen hacking people for years.He could probably be elected mayor there.I really don't know how anybody can look at the kick to the achilles,or the kneeing this guy does,and just blow it off.Guy shouldn't be allowed to play in the playoffs,but Stern lets this filth get away with anything.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vp8iJppJ15s

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j3n40cOkKTA

[timmgirvan]

Pgardn: sorry to disagree but the best hands by a 'big man' go to Bill Walton on the TrailBlazers Championship team! If not for bad knees..Walton could have been a real force in NBA.....That Blazer team was the epitome of team play. And Scuds..it does appear that Bowen is cheapshot artist, with intent to hurt an opposing player. Where's Stuey??

[SCUDSBROTHER]

Originally Posted by timmgirvan

Pgardn: sorry to disagree but the best hands by a 'big man' go to Bill Walton on the TrailBlazers Championship team! If not for bad knees..Walton could have been a real force in NBA.....That Blazer team was the epitome of team play. And Scuds..it does appear that Bowen is cheapshot artist, with intent to hurt an opposing player. Where's Stuey??

Appears?? Come on now.How much evidence you need before trash is considered trash? Look at 1:08-1:11 here of this clip,and tell me that's an accident.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j3n40cOkKTA


Simply crazy that this guy is allowed to play the rest of the playoffs(after hacking at this guys achilles.)People just don't want to admit that this guy is what he is(common trash.)Amazes me that Stern doesn't care about this tape of this thug,but is so concerned with a couple guys coming a few feet on to the floor to try to protect their best player.Nash could easily have gotten hurt on that play,and Stoudemire could easily have had Achilles problems.From all this thugery,who got punished? The Suns lost one of their best players for a game,and the Spurs lost a utility player.Now,you wonder why people hate the SPURS? Simply allowing Thug Bowen to hack at people routinely would be reason enough to despise the organization.They have never won back to back championships,and never will.You are not a "special" team unless you can do it,and they have repeatedly shown that they are not good enough to accomplish what the great teams could.You tell me how retarded these people are to think 1:08-1:11 of this tape "happened by chance." When you have no other Major Pro Sports teams in your town,you evidently can start becoming as class-deficient as this Bowen is.

Originally Posted by SCUDSBROTHER

Appears?? Come on now.How much evidence you need before trash is considered trash? Look at 1:08-1:11 here of this clip,and tell me that's an accident.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j3n40cOkKTA


Simply crazy that this guy is allowed to play the rest of the playoffs(after hacking at this guys achilles.)People just don't want to admit that this guy is what he is(common trash.)Amazes me that Stern doesn't care about this tape of this thug,but is so concerned with a couple guys coming a few feet on to the floor to try to protect their best player.Nash could easily have gotten hurt on that play,and Stoudemire could easily have had Achilles problems.From all this thugery,who got punished? The Suns lost one of their best players for a game,and the Spurs lost a utility player.Now,you wonder why people hate the SPURS? Simply allowing Thug Bowen to hack at people routinely would be reason enough to despise the organization.They have never won back to back championships,and never will.You are not a "special" team unless you can do it,and they have repeatedly shown that they are not good enough to accomplish what the great teams could.You tell me how retarded these people are to think 1:08-1:11 of this tape "happened by chance." When you have no other Major Pro Sports teams in your town,you evidently can start becoming as class-deficient as this Bowen is.

For many years the Spurs have been considered the dirty team of the NBA. LOL Cmon Scuds. That is NOT why you dislike the team. And this is the FIRST YEAR anyone has called the TEAM dirty. They were always considered soft, too nice, that was always their problem. Got to come up with other excuses after 3 championships.
Bowen does get under people on their jump shot. I really dont like that as I have torn ligaments in both ankles because of sprains caused by landing on the feet. And it definitely plays with a scorers head. As far as going for Stoudamire's Achilles, thats pure BS.
There is no way to aim an hit the achilles while players are moving that fast, it was a ridiculous statement. The radio guys for Phoenix even said this. He did make some strange move at his leg though. But to say he was aiming at the corner side of the left big toe in order to cause injury is stupidity. Bowen plays head games with the players on other teams that cannot maintain composure. He has covered Nash most of the series because he is the best defender on the team. Bowen will not even talk trash to Nash because it is totally ineffective, in fact he knows it is counter productive.
AND FOR GOD'S SAKE RAJA BELL IS EVERY BIT AS "CLEVER DIRTY" as Bowen and you make NO mention of him. Get real. The Spurs had no way to win in this game even if they won on the score board. This team finds a way to win while playing poorly(last night they were bad) which is always what winning teams are able to do. Find a way.

The organization is considered a model by the NBA. Your hacked off it comes from a smaller town in South Texas with you mistakenly think is full of rednecks and ex-Confederate soldiers when in fact it is largely Hispanic.

The NBA absolutely hates the Spurs being in the Championship. TV revenues plummet. Believing there is some ulterior motive for keeping the Spurs in is stupidity.

Scuds you do not become the winningest modern sports frachise by being stupid. Just because a team does not come from the West or East coast you have to hate them. Who is your NBA team Scuds...? I dont think you have one, you just find it easy to hate. Just like your phobia of white southern towns that hate. Ironic.

Reminds me of Repent professing Smarty Jones was nothing but lucky.

[SCUDSBROTHER]

Originally Posted by pgardn

The NBA absolutely hates the Spurs being in the Championship. TV revenues plummet. Believing there is some ulterior motive for keeping the Spurs in is stupidity.

Scuds you do not become the winningest modern sports frachise by being stupid. Just because a team does not come from the West or East coast you have to hate them. Who is your NBA team Scuds...? I dont think you have one, you just find it easy to hate. Just like your phobia of white southern towns that hate. Ironic.

Reminds me of Repent professing Smarty Jones was nothing but lucky.

Well, the evidence is unavoidable.No amount of WORDSMITHING can change the evidence on those links.That guy kicked him in the Achilles.If you can't see this from 1:08-1:11 on that clip I put up,then we don't have much to talk about.People in denial are difficult to get through to. Just how long are Spurs fans gunna deny this trash is a dirty player? You look silly doing it.Documentation abounds.

Originally Posted by SCUDSBROTHER

Well, the evidence is unavoidable.No amount of WORDSMITHING can change the evidence on those links.That guy kicked him in the Achilles.If you can't see this from 1:08-1:11 on that clip I put up,then we don't have much to talk about.People in denial are difficult to get through to. Just how long are Spurs fans gunna deny this trash is a dirty player? You look silly doing it.Documentation abounds.

So you think Bowen picked out Stoudamire's achilles and went for that spot, on purpose? He knowingly picked out the achilles and kicked at the Achilles... right. No way. Its way to hard to react that fast. This is the same guy that accused Ginobili of kicking him in the gonads (which btw is much easier when you are in the air trying to make space and the other player is stationary on the floor trying to draw a charge). Yet there is a perfect picture of Steve Nash doing the exact same thing to Kobe. They show Nash's foot directly on Kobe's groin.
Amare is a whiner, young and stupid. So this kind of stuff only goes on with the Spurs. Raja Bell and Steve Nash had never had repeated incidents of this kind. Right.

And Scuds you of course are the only one who has seen 1:08 through 1:11 so you know from the picture intent to go for the achilles. You know Bowen was going for the Achilles. And the Phoenix people themselves say it is very doubtful he could accurately hit that spot with a player in motion. Great.
I dont like Bowen getting under people on jump shots, I will say that. And you also have to realize Bowen is not the only player that does this. What Bowen does is talk trash and get under jump shooters. He is a master at taking people out of their game. And it is totally to play head games. Bell is great at flopping, sticking the elbow on the pick, grabbing, tripping, he is Bowen with too much emotion. Unable to talk good trash like Bowen, because Bowen does not believe a thing he is saying.

[SCUDSBROTHER]

I know this piece of trash kicked him.I am sure he didn't care where he hit him(as long as it hurt.)Why you gotta keep saying he didn't have time to do it? He did it.He intentionally kicked him.