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Old 05-20-2007, 10:31 AM
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I didn't think about it until this morning, but yesterday was the first time I'd watched a Triple Crown broadcast in 7 years.. I was switching back and forth early to the hockey game conclusion and OTB TV-12 here for Belmont/CD/PIM, so I didn't see everything, but what I saw was OK I suppose.

I was mystified though when we got Tom Hammond's makeup-laden face at one point while they ran the Schaefer behind him.. "As they finish an undercard race here at Pimlico.." he said. Gee.. Here's an idea, WHY NOT SHOW US THAT RACE FELLAS?

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Any other thoughts about the telecasts? I didn't watch any ESPN prelim stuff at all...
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Old 05-20-2007, 10:34 AM
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espn sportcenter leadin...

chris mnkendry:
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josh elliot: "unbelievable'


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Old 05-20-2007, 10:38 AM
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Most everything we saw from EStreet was excellent. For ESPN to dedicate that much time to the undercard is great for the game. By the way I'm in love with Jeanine Edwards. She has a super knowledge of horse racing and beautiful eyes. How old would you say she is. We guessed 42ish.
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Old 05-20-2007, 10:41 AM
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I was standing in line almost 3 hours waiting for "Rowdy" Roddy Piper's autograph (great guy, real friendly). Watched the race at the Amsterdam OTB, first time not at home or with friends since the '03 edition with Funny Cide's win. It was tough because at the parlor...they had the Pimlico feed, the NBC feed & then the OTB feed came on right after the race. Steve, I have to "crow" a bit because the last week of wagering for me has been the best in 22 years of playing the sport! We all have "up and downs"...but, I'm on a "high" like never before! I just hope it continues for the Spa meet. I know it's a long way away...but for me, that's when it really counts.
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Old 05-20-2007, 10:46 AM
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In the long run...ESPN will be the worst thing for our sport.
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Old 05-20-2007, 10:51 AM
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I was able to watch pretty much the entire day....(after I avoided a little emergency at the office)

ESPN was okay....basically what they do is run 2 hours worth of material twice....they have the early crew go until like 2 or so and then Kenny Mayne (who picked Curlin) come in and the discussion is a little different, but the pieces are the same...Jeanine Edwards is a top shelf interviewer...as good as I've ever seen.....the best part of the telecast was that Bailey wasn't there....

NBC was typcial NBC.....I thought the best piece they did was Costas did a little live impromptu interview with Pletcher on a bench near the horsepath...Gary Stevens is so much better than Jerry Bailey and it's always good to hear what he has to say...
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So glad you brought this subject up! I was telling my buddy this morning that I'll never watch another all day ESPN telecast again. Why?
Well,all they talked about all day was The Preakness.They didn't show one post parade and as far as I can remember, only showed the odds for the upcoming race once.
I would enjoy it more if there was more time devoted to the next upcoming race...instead they squeeze in Randy's thoughts as they're loading into the gate.
Also, I don't enjoy Kenny (am I funny?) Mayne.
For the Belmont,I'm going to my similcast facility (Plainridge Ma.).
I'm going there today,by the way, to play Belmont today.
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Old 05-20-2007, 10:57 AM
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So glad you brought this subject up! I was telling my buddy this morning that I'll never watch another all day ESPN telecast again. Why?
Well,all they talked about all day was The Preakness.They didn't show one post parade and as far as I can remember, only showed the odds for the upcoming race once.
I would enjoy it more if there was more time devoted to the next upcoming race...instead they squeeze in Randy's thoughts as they're loading into the gate.
Also, I don't enjoy Kenny (am I funny?) Mayne.
For the Belmont,I'm going to my similcast facility (Plainridge Ma.).
I'm going there today,by the way, to play Belmont today.
I totally AGREE with you! But, everything on ESPN's broadcast are so "phony baloney"
I just like the "basics" when it comes to our sport; talking about the horses, connections, wagering and conditions...
ALL the other "garbage" - I DON'T NEED!!!

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Old 05-20-2007, 10:59 AM
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So glad you brought this subject up! I was telling my buddy this morning that I'll never watch another all day ESPN telecast again. Why?
Well,all they talked about all day was The Preakness.They didn't show one post parade and as far as I can remember, only showed the odds for the upcoming race once.
I would enjoy it more if there was more time devoted to the next upcoming race...instead they squeeze in Randy's thoughts as they're loading into the gate.
Also, I don't enjoy Kenny (am I funny?) Mayne.
For the Belmont,I'm going to my similcast facility (Plainridge Ma.).
I'm going there today,by the way, to play Belmont today.
I thought they did a nice job with the live stuff....maybe some more time spent on the races, but all in all I thought they did well...Kenny Mayne is a huge lift to program imo...
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I thought they did a nice job with the live stuff....maybe some more time spent on the races, but all in all I thought they did well...Kenny Mayne is a huge lift to program imo...
I guess I just don't get him

I don't think he's funny and he doesn't bring anything else to the table about horse racing...
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Most everything we saw from EStreet was excellent. For ESPN to dedicate that much time to the undercard is great for the game. By the way I'm in love with Jeanine Edwards. She has a super knowledge of horse racing and beautiful eyes. How old would you say she is. We guessed 42ish.
I agree....and it's WAY overdue. They took Wire 2 Wire off of the air and pre-empted so many races in the past that I like to believe that they are changing their ways. I have not watched a Sportscenter since they took W2W off.
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Old 05-20-2007, 11:07 AM
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It's as if the whole undercard is an afterthought,so ESPN can show interviews,behind the scenes stuff etc..instead of the focus on the next race.
To me,it's like one big infomercial for the BIG RACE (which they don't televise).
Time to go...looks like (for now),they're on the turf at Belmont!
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Old 05-20-2007, 11:08 AM
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I agree....and it's WAY overdue. They took Wire 2 Wire off of the air and pre-empted so many races in the past that I like to believe that they are changing their ways. I have not watched a Sportscenter since they took W2W off.
Unfortunately...they have the Breeder's Cup this year.
This will be interesting.....
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Old 05-20-2007, 11:13 AM
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I still think they need to find a better way to keep viewers informed of odds, MTP, will pays and payouts. They seem to have a ticker for everything else on ESPN.

Guess without a vested interest in handle it's not top priority. Probably figure horseplayers are tuning in regargdess.
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It's as if the whole undercard is an afterthought,so ESPN can show interviews,behind the scenes stuff etc..instead of the focus on the next race.
To me,it's like one big infomercial for the BIG RACE (which they don't televise).
Time to go...looks like (for now),they're on the turf at Belmont!
Well but it is kind of an afterthought....it's not called Today at Pimlico, it's called Today at the Preakness....I agree that it would be nice to go from race to race ala TVG or HRTV, but the whole purpose of the program is to get people to turn over to channel 704 (my nbc) for the network broadcast.
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I have a different opinion. The coverage ESPN and NBC did was all about the Preakness, and that is fine. At least ESPN showed all the races. If you wanted to see the post parades, etc, go to the otb. ESPN was very good imo. The guy who was in the infield was great, and so is Edwards and Randy Moss and Mayne.

NBC was fine, I wish they would have showed race 11 but, they were focusing on the preakness. I thought Gary Stevens did a great job, and Tom Durkin and all of em'.

Overall it was a blast to watch 6 hours of horse racing on national tv.
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I guess I just don't get him

I don't think he's funny and he doesn't bring anything else to the table about horse racing...
If nothing else, they have him on there to counter Hammerin Hank's misfortunes. Can you imagine the silence after one of Goldberg's comments if Mayne wasn't around...it would be painful....
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I have a different opinion. The coverage ESPN and NBC did was all about the Preakness, and that is fine. At least ESPN showed all the races. If you wanted to see the post parades, etc, go to the otb. ESPN was very good imo. The guy who was in the infield was great, and so is Edwards and Randy Moss and Mayne.

NBC was fine, I wish they would have showed race 11 but, they were focusing on the preakness. I thought Gary Stevens did a great job, and Tom Durkin and all of em'.

Overall it was a blast to watch 6 hours of horse racing on national tv.
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I have a different opinion. The coverage ESPN and NBC did was all about the Preakness, and that is fine. At least ESPN showed all the races. If you wanted to see the post parades, etc, go to the otb. ESPN was very good imo. The guy who was in the infield was great, and so is Edwards and Randy Moss and Mayne.

NBC was fine, I wish they would have showed race 11 but, they were focusing on the preakness. I thought Gary Stevens did a great job, and Tom Durkin and all of em'.

Overall it was a blast to watch 6 hours of horse racing on national tv.
I totally agree here. To see that much racing-related coverage on ESPN is amazing, especially when they are not even airing the Preakness or the Derby.

The other day, I was discussing horse racing iwth a non-player, and he said something that shocked me. He said that he thought horse racing was making a comeback. I really hope that was true. I was really amazed at how many people ask me about the Derby, and how many of them talked about how "that horse cam back from 19h place". I knew that the move wasn't that unbelieveable, but to them it was a miracle, and if that is what we need, then so be it.

I was overall happy with the coverage of ESPN yesterday, although NBC wasn't that great....

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