Pacman Jones sought by police

somerfrost · #1 06-18-2007, 01:51 PM

They want to question him regarding his possible involvement in a shooting incident...looks like he's learned his lesson, of course we don't know when this happened etc.

Cannon Shell · #2 06-18-2007, 02:39 PM

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Originally Posted by somerfrost

They want to question him regarding his possible involvement in a shooting incident...looks like he's learned his lesson, of course we don't know when this happened etc.

That is a headline that comes as no surprise

SentToStud · #3 06-18-2007, 05:20 PM

These fools are getting off easy with the 8-game suspensions. Hell, they're back for the playoffs if their team is in it. NFL players, aside from the very top skill position players, are very expendable. That's why their contracts are not guaranteed.

He should have got a 2-year suspension with no chance for parole before the first year is served. That would get this kind of stuff out of the news.

#4 06-18-2007, 05:30 PM

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He should have got a 2-year suspension with no chance for parole before the first year is served. That would get this kind of stuff out of the news.

No it wouldn't. Going overboard with suspensions, which takes away a troubled person's livelihood, will more than likely result in more incidents like these.

The NFL makes billions off of these players and if they really cared about them, other than the image the league has, they would spend more money on counseling and rehab instead of suspending and taking away their income.

timmgirvan · #5 06-18-2007, 05:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Pillow Pants

No it wouldn't. Going overboard with suspensions, which takes away a troubled person's livelihood, will more than likely result in more incidents like these.

The NFL makes billions off of these players and if they really cared about them, other than the image the league has, they would spend more money on counseling and rehab instead of suspending and taking away their income.

Pillow: That makes sense....Why would the NFL do that?

SentToStud · #6 06-18-2007, 05:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Pillow Pants

No it wouldn't. Going overboard with suspensions, which takes away a troubled person's livelihood, will more than likely result in more incidents like these.

The NFL makes billions off of these players and if they really cared about them, other than the image the league has, they would spend more money on counseling and rehab instead of suspending and taking away their income.

Couldn't disagree more.

The NFL is fiercely competitive and not at all considered a league where players are to be treated like breakable objects or children. Get injured? You're out. Lose a step? You're out. F-up playing your role on special teams? You're out.

Guys like this have no regard for the competitive nature of the sport where he should be working hard 12 months a year and obviously has other bad priorities. Guys like him are absolutely expendable. That's just the way it is.
And no group knows this better than the players.

I have a good friend who was a College All-American and a KR/WR in the NFL for 5 years. He blew out his knee in a game. How many teammates went to see him during his 4 days in the hospital? One. The hospital is about one mile from their practice facility.

A good read on this is Feinstein's Next Man Up which is a behind the scenes look at player personnel decisions during an entire Baltimore Ravens season.

timmgirvan · #7 06-18-2007, 06:13 PM

S2S: It is the most brutal of businesses, to be sure.

#8 06-18-2007, 06:20 PM

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Originally Posted by SentToStud

Couldn't disagree more.

The NFL is fiercely competitive and not at all considered a league where players are to be treated like breakable objects or children. Get injured? You're out. Lose a step? You're out. F-up playing your role on special teams? You're out.

Which is why this new discipline policy is ridiculous. They expect these guys to turn it off once they're off the field? Please. They're a bunch of hypocrites.

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Guys like this have no regard for the competitive nature of the sport where he should be working hard 12 months a year and obviously has other bad priorities. Guys like him are absolutely expendable. That's just the way it is.
And no group knows this better than the players.

He's certainly not expendable for the Titans in the short-term. Have you seen this guy play?

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have a good friend who was a College All-American and a KR/WR in the NFL for 5 years. He blew out his knee in a game. How many teammates went to see him during his 4 days in the hospital? One. The hospital is about one mile from their practice facility.

Ok. And?

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A good read on this is Feinstein's Next Man Up which is a behind the scenes look at player personnel decisions during an entire Baltimore Ravens season.

Yeah that style of leadership has worked out real well for the Ravens as of late.

timmgirvan · #9 06-18-2007, 06:30 PM

As an aside...don't you think that the new 'get tough' policies stretch the laws as far as "ex post facto". Selig wants to suspend Giambi for something that happened years ago, Tank Johnson served his time(and suspension)and shouldn't have been subject to Goodells crap. Pacman is a different deal,though.

SentToStud · #10 06-18-2007, 07:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Pillow Pants

Which is why this new discipline policy is ridiculous. They expect these guys to turn it off once they're off the field? Please. They're a bunch of hypocrites.

He's certainly not expendable for the Titans in the short-term. Have you seen this guy play?

Ok. And?

Yeah that style of leadership has worked out real well for the Ravens as of late.

All I say is if you make big money playing a game and you're little more than a commodity, you need to pay a bit of attention to what you do and be responsible for your actions. PAcman obviously is not.

I'd say yes, he's expendable. The teams not great and, as I said, NFL players come and go. I would wager his teammates, if they spoke the truth, would say "screw him."

My point on the injured guy is that it's a very competitive sport and there is always someone there to take your place. Not every game played is a conference Championship or a Super Bowl. Players jut don't give a sh1t about each other.

Cannon Shell · #11 06-18-2007, 08:12 PM

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Originally Posted by timmgirvan

As an aside...don't you think that the new 'get tough' policies stretch the laws as far as "ex post facto". Selig wants to suspend Giambi for something that happened years ago, Tank Johnson served his time(and suspension)and shouldn't have been subject to Goodells crap. Pacman is a different deal,though.

I love how Bud gets the desire to suspend Giambi once he is on the DL.

timmgirvan · #12 06-18-2007, 08:19 PM

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I love how Bud gets the desire to suspend Giambi once he is on the DL.

Bud was,is, and always will be a WEASEL! Hopefully,PETA doesn't monitor DT

#13 06-18-2007, 08:27 PM

Pacman is being sought...?

I know where to find him.
Just wait till night and stake out the Booby Bars.
The man has a mammary fixation.

The Indomitable DrugS · #14 06-18-2007, 09:16 PM

Has he ever been convicted of anything?

Just a sad case of a guy being in the wrong titty bar, at the wrong time, over and over again.

#15 06-18-2007, 10:00 PM

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This just in... lots of guys have mammary fixations.

He just happens to be a criminal of sorts who has a mammary fixation.

I know this.
I was breast fed.

But this does not lead me to the Grand Teton Bar every night of the week.

deltagulf · #16 06-19-2007, 11:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

I love how Bud gets the desire to suspend Giambi once he is on the DL.

thats right he is already out. so it doesn't hurt the yanks.

#17 06-19-2007, 10:23 PM

From ESPN:

It's time for the word "pacman" to become a verb. This latest incident, in which members of Pacman Jones' entourage allegedly shot at another unknown entourage outside an Atlanta-area strip club around 4 a.m. Monday, clinches the deal. "To pacman" needs to become part of the lexicon.

"To pacman" means to repeatedly do a stupid thing while professing to understand its stupidity. For example: Dude pacmanned himself when he kept going to strip clubs with his gun-toting friends even after it cost him millions of dollars.

I love it.

SentToStud · #18 06-22-2007, 08:20 AM

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Originally Posted by SentToStud

All I say is if you make big money playing a game and you're little more than a commodity, you need to pay a bit of attention to what you do and be responsible for your actions. PAcman obviously is not.

I'd say yes, he's expendable. The teams not great and, as I said, NFL players come and go. I would wager his teammates, if they spoke the truth, would say "screw him."

My point on the injured guy is that it's a very competitive sport and there is always someone there to take your place. Not every game played is a conference Championship or a Super Bowl. Players jut don't give a sh1t about each other.

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/200....ap/index.html

Vince Young on Pacman. Not hard to imagine what his non-quoted teammates are saying. Next Man Up.

Seattleallstar · #19 06-22-2007, 11:04 AM

I hope this pacman ******* never gets paid a dime anymore, what a human waste