Is this the best we have?

[Sightseek]

I don't mean to put a downer on all the people who love Lava Man, but is our best older male horse really the one who probably won't even contest the Breeder's Cup and for whatever reason has never won a race outside of California?

[10 pnt move up]

Originally Posted by Sightseek

I don't mean to put a downer on all the people who love Lava Man, but is our best older male horse really the one who probably won't even contest the Breeder's Cup and for whatever reason has never won a race outside of California?

yea, probably. I mean street sense and curlin are solid three year olds but as far as the older division goes, yea.

[somerfrost]

Originally Posted by 10 pnt move up

yea, probably. I mean street sense and curlin are solid three year olds but as far as the older division goes, yea.

Maybe next year...the BC is in Cal isn't it? Lava Man is a good horse...we don't have any great ones. Right now, it looks like the BCC could be a 3yo race!

[pdrift1]

Originally Posted by Sightseek

I don't mean to put a downer on all the people who love Lava Man, but is our best older male horse really the one who probably won't even contest the Breeder's Cup and for whatever reason has never won a race outside of California?

don't forget about prem tap i think he is our best older horse

[blackthroatedwind]

Originally Posted by pdrift1

don't forget about prem tap i think he is our best older horse

He is done racing in the US.

[robfla]

Originally Posted by pdrift1

don't forget about prem tap i think he is our best older horse

now called "allah" and racing overseas exclusively

[pdrift1]

Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind

He is done racing in the US.

i didn't realize that, i thought kimm was going to get him back after dubai. thats a shame.

[pdrift1]

Originally Posted by robfla

now called "allah" and racing overseas exclusively

yeah i remember the name change but thought the saudi owners were going to send him back over for a run at the classic and a summer campaign here.

[robfla]

Originally Posted by pdrift1

yeah i remember the name change but thought the saudi owners were going to send him back over for a run at the classic and a summer campaign here.

Premium Tap will not return to U.S.

http://www.ntra.com/content.aspx?type=news&id=24769

[Danzig]

A disappointed John Kimmel confirmed Wednesday that Premium Tap, runner-up to Invasor in the $6-million Dubai World Cup (UAE-I), will remain in Saudi Arabia to point for next year’s King's Cup, which the colt won this year, and possibly another try at the World Cup.
All Kimmel would say is that the horse’s owner, King Abdullah bin Abdul Aziz, has decided against returning the son of Pleasant Tap to the United States, and will keep him in Saudi Arabia. Kimmel says he doesn’t know who will train the horse or if he even will start again this year.

that's from the last article i saw regarding the matter.
shame too, premium tap could really be in the mix for HOY if he returned, and returned to form. invasor is the only one he was losing to lately, and that one of course is gone.

[pdrift1]

Originally Posted by robfla

Premium Tap will not return to U.S.

http://www.ntra.com/content.aspx?type=news&id=24769

so it sounds like what i thought, they were going to at first.well i missed that article and missed the thread on here at the time, which im sure there was. beautiful just beautiful!!!!!!!!!

The Suburban was a suckass fest. I was really disappointed with Fairbanks' performance.

Lava Man? That was fantastic. 3 in a row.

[pdrift1]

Originally Posted by Danzig

A disappointed John Kimmel confirmed Wednesday that Premium Tap, runner-up to Invasor in the $6-million Dubai World Cup (UAE-I), will remain in Saudi Arabia to point for next year’s King's Cup, which the colt won this year, and possibly another try at the World Cup.
All Kimmel would say is that the horse’s owner, King Abdullah bin Abdul Aziz, has decided against returning the son of Pleasant Tap to the United States, and will keep him in Saudi Arabia. Kimmel says he doesn’t know who will train the horse or if he even will start again this year.

that's from the last article i saw regarding the matter.
shame too, premium tap could really be in the mix for HOY if he returned, and returned to form. invasor is the only one he was losing to lately, and that one of course is gone.

outside the 3 yo's come bc time -this has to be the worst year for the older division.ther is nobody out there that is a standout for the bcc. and i remember all the **** poor st.liam took when some thought, this is the best we have? horse didn't get enuff credit and would take him back in a instant over this bunch. he would crush em

[pdrift1]

Originally Posted by pdrift1

outside the 3 yo's come bc time -this has to be the worst year for the older division.ther is nobody out there that is a standout for the bcc. and i remember all the **** poor st.liam took when some thought, this is the best we have? horse didn't get enuff credit and would take him back in a instant over this bunch. he would crush em

and by the way how is your husband doing? and the rest of the family?

[pdrift1]

Originally Posted by Danzig

A disappointed John Kimmel confirmed Wednesday that Premium Tap, runner-up to Invasor in the $6-million Dubai World Cup (UAE-I), will remain in Saudi Arabia to point for next year’s King's Cup, which the colt won this year, and possibly another try at the World Cup.
All Kimmel would say is that the horse’s owner, King Abdullah bin Abdul Aziz, has decided against returning the son of Pleasant Tap to the United States, and will keep him in Saudi Arabia. Kimmel says he doesn’t know who will train the horse or if he even will start again this year.

that's from the last article i saw regarding the matter.
shame too, premium tap could really be in the mix for HOY if he returned, and returned to form. invasor is the only one he was losing to lately, and that one of course is gone.

and by the way how is your husband doing? and the rest of the family?

[ateamstupid]

Originally Posted by pdrift1

outside the 3 yo's come bc time -this has to be the worst year for the older division.ther is nobody out there that is a standout for the bcc. and i remember all the **** poor st.liam took when some thought, this is the best we have? horse didn't get enuff credit and would take him back in a instant over this bunch. he would crush em

Really? Who the hell did Saint Liam beat that year? Commentator with the help of two rabbits, Flower Alley, Perfect Drift, Badge of Silver? Yeah, those are some real superstars. He was a nice horse, but to act like he was beating horses tons better than this year's crop is ridiculous.

[whodey17]

I would think that someone will emerge from this older horse group and stamp himself as the one to beat in the older horse division - or I could just be wishing.

[VOL JACK]

Originally Posted by ateamstupid

Really? Who the hell did Saint Liam beat that year? Commentator with the help of two rabbits, Flower Alley, Perfect Drift, Badge of Silver? Yeah, those are some real superstars. He was a nice horse, but to act like he was beating horses tons better than this year's crop is ridiculous.

Well at least his beyers were grade 1 quality. FWIW.

[Sightseek]

Originally Posted by VOL JACK

Well at least his beyers were grade 1 quality. FWIW.

Exactly, and none of these horses could even look Zapper in the eye while both at a trot, let alone in a race like the Woodward.

[VOL JACK]

Originally Posted by Sightseek

Exactly, and none of these horses could even look Zapper in the eye while both at a trot, let alone in a race like the Woodward.

Look him in the eye? they wouldn't be able see his ass. He is aleast 15 lengths better than anything running today.