A Green Monkey-esque Filly to debut soon

[The Indomitable DrugS]

Patricia's Gem, who worked a blinkered furlong in 9 3/5ths over Keeneland's polytrack - and was caught galloping out a quarter mile in 20.21 seconds - at the KEE April 2yo under-tack show looks to be on-track for an Oak Tree debut.

After that quick polytrack work, the daughter of Mineshaft out of a Forty Niner mare sold for $1.75 million.

Her 2nd dam is the Del Mar Oaks winning turf specialist Stylish Star.

Patricia's Gem is believed to be in Dick Mandella's southern california barn, she worked 5 furlongs in 58 flat out of the gate at Santa Anita yesterday.

I'm a little interested in watching this one - I have a hard time imagining a Mineshaft filly being quick.

[Indian Charlie]

Originally Posted by The Indomitable DrugS

Patricia's Gem, who worked a blinkered furlong in 9 3/5ths over Keeneland's polytrack - and was caught galloping out a quarter mile in 20.21 seconds - at the KEE April 2yo under-tack show looks to be on-track for an Oak Tree debut.

After that quick polytrack work, the daughter of Mineshaft out of a Forty Niner mare sold for $1.75 million.

Her 2nd dam is the Del Mar Oaks winning turf specialist Stylish Star.

Patricia's Gem is believed to be in Dick Mandella's southern california barn, she worked 5 furlongs in 58 flat out of the gate at Santa Anita yesterday.

I'm a little interested in watching this one - I have a hard time imagining a Mineshaft filly being quick.

heck, i'd rather pay 16 mil for a daughter of mineshaft that 1.75 mil for a son of forestry, unless that son of forestry was named discreet cat.

[The Indomitable DrugS]

Forest Danger was bought for 900K at the same sale as TGM....only three years earlier.

He is now standing stud - passing on his soundness and durability to the future generations.

[blackthroatedwind]

Originally Posted by Indian Charlie

heck, i'd rather pay 16 mil for a daughter of mineshaft that 1.75 mil for a son of forestry, unless that son of forestry was named discreet cat.

I guess it's a good thing nobody paid $16 million for The Green Monkey.

Originally Posted by The Indomitable DrugS

I'm a little interested in watching this one - I have a hard time imagining a Mineshaft filly being quick.

And if the horse has Mineshaft's running style, she may not stop. Ever.

God I loved watching Mineshaft run.
I love that style. Efficiency. Head down. All business. No waste.

[PPerfectfan]

Originally Posted by The Indomitable DrugS

Patricia's Gem, who worked a blinkered furlong in 9 3/5ths over Keeneland's polytrack - and was caught galloping out a quarter mile in 20.21 seconds - at the KEE April 2yo under-tack show looks to be on-track for an Oak Tree debut.

After that quick polytrack work, the daughter of Mineshaft out of a Forty Niner mare sold for $1.75 million.

Her 2nd dam is the Del Mar Oaks winning turf specialist Stylish Star.

Patricia's Gem is believed to be in Dick Mandella's southern california barn, she worked 5 furlongs in 58 flat out of the gate at Santa Anita yesterday.

I'm a little interested in watching this one - I have a hard time imagining a Mineshaft filly being quick.

They do have her Drugs, and they say she is very, very nice. And worth every penny.

[MisterB]

Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind

I guess it's a good thing nobody paid $16 million for The Green Monkey.

You know that too

[SniperSB23]

Originally Posted by MisterB

You know that too

Even at $8 million he was a colossal ripoff.

[MisterB]

Originally Posted by SniperSB23

Even at $8 million he was a colossal ripoff.

Not if they unloaded the thing at 15.5mil, the plan didn't work to good

[Honu]

Originally Posted by The Indomitable DrugS

Patricia's Gem, who worked a blinkered furlong in 9 3/5ths over Keeneland's polytrack - and was caught galloping out a quarter mile in 20.21 seconds - at the KEE April 2yo under-tack show looks to be on-track for an Oak Tree debut.

After that quick polytrack work, the daughter of Mineshaft out of a Forty Niner mare sold for $1.75 million.

Her 2nd dam is the Del Mar Oaks winning turf specialist Stylish Star.

Patricia's Gem is believed to be in Dick Mandella's southern california barn, she worked 5 furlongs in 58 flat out of the gate at Santa Anita yesterday.

I'm a little interested in watching this one - I have a hard time imagining a Mineshaft filly being quick.

Jeez I go on vacation and they let her rip..........She is not typically the type of horse that they buy at the sales , she"s what I would call a fullfigured girl lol . When I have worked her I never let her reach top speed because she was a little fat , but I can tell you that the feeling she gives you when you are on her back is like driving a Porshe , she drops down when you push on the gas peddle and her 12 second 1/8ths feel like 14.
Also a side note , the track at Santa Anita is usually a few ticks faster down the backside and so its really not that hard to get a fast gate work , I wish I could have seen the work to see if she was being pushed or not. Oh well Ill be back to work on Monday so I guess Ill find out then .

[blackthroatedwind]

I just hope she's as good as Booted.

[Honu]

Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind

I just hope she's as good as Booted.

Well Im hopin for a little more than that ....Booted didnt exactly catch the track on fire in his last start but he did chip his knee so Im hopin that is his excuse.

[Indian Charlie]

Originally Posted by SniperSB23

Even at $8 million he was a colossal ripoff.

ok, so what's the story?

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by Indian Charlie

ok, so what's the story?

good luck with that.

i've heard whispers on here before about some big conspiracy, but no one will give the gory details.

[Merlinsky]

Originally Posted by Danzig

good luck with that.

i've heard whispers on here before about some big conspiracy, but no one will give the gory details.

Well not sure how much has been said here but if y'all were talking the same story I'm aware of it's essentially that they bought him privately beforehand for much much cheaper (well compared to $16 mil) and got into a fake p*ssing contest with the Dubai folks just to go 'oh oh see, I just whipped out $16 mil without even blinking' but the $8 mil or even cheaper is the ballpark figure for the real price of "the Monkey." I'll see if I can hunt up the play by play as I was told. It might take a minute to search the right message board. Of course it's all "alleged" if you know what I mean. Eh.

[Merlinsky]

Ah ha, found it. Courtesy of Pedigree Query's forum:

It is whispered that Demi O'Byrne bought the horse outside, before the sale, for somewhere between $4-5 million, and the Coolmore gang, for want of a term, ran him through the sale and up as high as he could go. Their purpose was to basically smack Sheikh Mohammed upside the head and "prove" they were the winners. He could not have bought the horse at any price. Perhaps it is poetic justice, then, that they will not see a penny of their $4-5 million.

Regardless of their intent, their schoolyard behavior amounted to a public humiliation for Sheikh Mohammed. This caused an otherwise gracious (in public anyhow) ruler to retaliate. At the Keeneland September yearling sale, Sheikh Mohammed spent $57 million on yearlings, and not a Coolmore-sired horse among them. The gauntlet was thrown and the message to breeders was clear... to avoid Coolmore stallions if you expect to sell your equine offspring for anything like their real value. It was even remarked on in the trade publications covering the sale.

Sheikh Mohammed has been a player for a very long time, and his brother, Sheikh Maktoum before him.

[Indian Charlie]

not that i will ever understand such things, but why would the sheikh be humiliated by losing out on such an overpriced piece of forestry?

i think, on every possible level, it makes coolmore look stupid. 16 mil or 4-5 mil, pulling a fast one or not pulling a fast one.

[The Indomitable DrugS]

There's a lot of nonsense that seems to go on at these sales with the final price.

However, if Hartly and Derenzio (sp?) sell the horse secretly for $4-to-$5 million one day, and the next day they sell the horse for $16 million, wouldn't that amount to about $11 million-to-$12 million extra in taxes for them to pay?

If this happened, I'm sure Tabor's group would have to cover those taxes.

I assume the attention that comes with the gigantic final purchase price might offset the few million dollars in extra taxes if the horse turns out to be a Grade 1 winner.

I don't exactly understand why Hartly and DeRenzio would willingly sell a horse for $4 million - when the Maktoums are willing to bid in excess of $15 million for said horse.

I have no idea what could have went on. The horse was an expensive yearling and he had to really sucker some people in with that very fast blinkered furlong work at the worlds most prestegious 2yo sale.

In all honesty, who friggin cares what who paid for what?

[The Indomitable DrugS]

Well, if the horse cost $4 million instead of $16 million - he would have been unheard of by the vast majority of people who follow horse racing.

I've seen somethings that I believe outright decepetion went on with regarding final prices at sales.

There are some pretty curious things as well. For example, the sales topper at this years Saratoga's select yearling sale was the first foal dropped out of this wonderful race mare.



It's hard to imagine anyone wanting to pay over $2 million for a yearling out of an unproven broodmare, who was a monumentally bad race horse.