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Old 09-29-2007, 12:28 PM
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Ascot - Sunday 30 September
Going: Round Course: Soft; Straight: Good to Soft.

15:45
10 Run Grosvenor Casinos Cumberland Lodge Stakes (group 3)
Class 1, £50000.00 added, 3yo plus, £28390.00 penalty 1m 4f
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Form Horse Trainer Age Wgt Jockey
1(1) 21024-1 Ask Sir Michael Stoute 4 9 3 R L Moore
2(3) 18-2031 Stotsfold W R Swinburn 4 9 3 A Kirby
3(9) 7-11527 Classic Punch (IRE) D R C Elsworth 4 9 0 T Quinn
4(4) 452461 Hattan (IRE) C E Brittain 5 9 0 J Fortune
5(6) 502443 Laverock (IRE) Saeed bin Suroor 5 9 0 L Dettori
6(8) 161131- Young Mick G G Margarson 5 9 0 G Baker
7(10) 12948 Acapulco (IRE) A P O'Brien 3 8 6 D R McCabe
8(7) 31123 Honolulu (IRE) A P O'Brien 3 8 6 D Holland
9(2) 311132 Zaham (USA) M Johnston 3 8 6 R Hills
10(5) 895097 Satulagi (USA) J S Moore 3 8 3 J F Egan


Betting Forecast: 3/1 Honolulu (IRE), 4/1 Laverock (IRE), 11/2 Ask, 7/1 Zaham (USA), 8/1 Young Mick, Hattan (IRE), 10/1 Stotsfold, 14/1 Classic Punch (IRE), 16/1 Acapulco (IRE), 50/1 Satulagi (USA)


FORMWATCH
ASK 5-2 (9-0) Tracked leader until led over 2f out, quickened and well in command inside final furlong, comfortably, won at Chester 1m 5f Grp 3 (1) gd in May beating Scorpion (9-0) by 2l, 6 ran.
STOTSFOLD 7-1 (9-0) Held up, headway over 3f out, soon ridden, stayed on to lead but edged right final 100 yards, driven out, won at Goodwood 1m 2f Grp 3 (1) gf beating Zaham (8-8) by 1/2l, 6 ran.
CLASSIC PUNCH (IRE) 10-1 (9-11) Led, ridden headed over 2f out, soon beaten, 7th of 8, 18l behind Galactic Star (8-11) at Doncaster 1m 4f hcap (2) gf.
HATTAN (IRE) 11-4fav (9-1) Took keen hold, held up, headway on outside over 2f out, ridden and hung left from over 1f out, ran on to lead well inside final furlong, won at Chester 1m 4f lst stk (1) gf beating Foxhaven (9-1) by 1l, 6 ran.
LAVEROCK (IRE) (9-6) In touch, 3rd straight, went 2nd over 1f out, one pace and lost 2nd inside final furlong, 3rd of 7, 2 1/2l behind Bussoni (9-6) at Veliefendi 1m 4f Grp 2 (1) gd.
YOUNG MICK 7-2 (9-0) Held up in 6th, headway towards inside 2f out, led over 1f out, in command final furlong, stayed on strongly, won at Ascot 1m 4f Grp 3 (1) gs in Sept '06 beating Munsef (9-0) by 2l, 8 ran.
HONOLULU (IRE) 13-8fav (9-0) Held up, ridden and headway over 2f out, stayed on inside final furlong and edged left, 3rd of 10, 2l behind Lucarno (9-0) at Doncaster 1m 7f Grp 1 (1) gf.
ZAHAM (USA) 9-4jt-fav (8-8) Led, soon clear, ridden and headed just over 2f out, soon switched left, rallied gamely inside final furlong, regained 2nd near finish, 2nd of 6, 1/2l behind Stotsfold (9-0) at Goodwood 1m 2f Grp 3 (1) gf.


16:20
20 Run John Guest Diadem Stakes (group 2)
Class 1, £90000.00 added, 3yo plus, £51102.00 penalty 6f
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Form Horse Trainer Age Wgt Jockey
1(4) 11-6021 Al Qasi (IRE) P W Chapple-Hyam 4 9 0 K McEvoy
2(8) 040593 Assertive R Hannon 4 9 0 Dane O'Neill
3(19) 301623 Balthazaar's Gift (IRE) L M Cumani 4 9 0 J Fortune
4(3) 487520 Baltic King H Morrison 7 9 0 S Drowne
5(17) 971515 Beckermet (IRE) R F Fisher 5 9 0 C Catlin
6(6) 53-1011 Benbaun (IRE) M Wallace 6 9 0 E Ahern
7(16) 0/21312 Galeota (IRE) R Hannon 5 9 0 R L Moore
8(12) 2-60130 Knot In Wood (IRE) R A Fahey 5 9 0 P Hanagan
9(18) 04-4171 Zidane J R Fanshawe 5 9 0 L Dettori
10(2) 52-41 Abraham Lincoln (IRE) A P O'Brien 3 8 12 D Holland
11(13) 2131-66 Captain Marvelous (IRE) B W Hills 3 8 12 William Buick
12(11) 14-0113 Haatef (USA) K Prendergast 3 8 12 Martin Dwyer
13(14) 124-810 Hellvelyn B Smart 3 8 12 T E Durcan
14(9) 1-11160 Per Incanto (USA) J L Dunlop 3 8 12 R Hills
15(10) 012053 Prime Defender B W Hills 3 8 12 M Hills
16(15) 4-20634 Sonny Red (IRE) R Hannon 3 8 12 P Dobbs
17(20) 90-4192 Dark Missile A M Balding 4 8 11 F Norton
18(5) 620015 Ripples Maid J A Geake 4 8 11 R Ffrench
19(7) 95-8135 Silver Touch (IRE) M R Channon 4 8 11 T P O'Shea
20(1) 8-17668 Scarlet Runner J L Dunlop 3 8 9 P Robinson


Betting Forecast: 11/2 Benbaun (IRE), 7/1 Balthazaar's Gift (IRE), 8/1 Al Qasi (IRE), Hellvelyn, 10/1 Zidane, Abraham Lincoln (IRE), 11/1 Beckermet (IRE), 12/1 Baltic King, Assertive, 16/1 Prime Defender, Haatef (USA), 20/1 Knot In Wood (IRE), Dark Missile, 25/1 Galeota (IRE), Per Incanto (USA), Sonny Red (IRE), Scarlet Runner, Captain Marvelous (IRE), 33/1 Ripples Maid, Silver Touch (IRE)


FORMWATCH
AL QASI (IRE) 9-4 (9-5) Tracked leaders, 5th halfway, 3rd and headway 1 1/2f out, 2nd and challenged final furlong, led 100 yards from finish, stayed on well, won at Curragh 6f Grp 3 (1) gs in Aug beating Evening Time (8-12) by 1 1/2l, 7 ran.
ASSERTIVE 12-1 (9-5) Tracked leaders on rail, tried to close inside final furlong, never reached winner but just missed 2nd, 3rd of 8, 1 1/2l behind Eisteddfod (9-2) at Sandown 7f lst stk (1) gd.
BALTHAZAAR'S GIFT (IRE) 11-1 (9-3) Stumbled start, behind, ridden and headway over 1f out, ran on, 3rd of 14, 1 1/2l behind Red Clubs (9-3) at Haydock 6f Grp 1 (1) gf.
BALTIC KING 8-1 (9-0) Hampered start, in rear, never dangerous, 10th of 12, 7l behind Hellvelyn (8-12) at Beverley 5f lst stk (1) gf in Aug.
BECKERMET (IRE) 7-2 (9-2) Held up, effort when not much room over 1f out, eased when beaten inside final furlong, 5th of 8, 6l behind Hotel du Cap (9-2) at Newbury 7f lst stk (1) gf.
BENBAUN (IRE) 5-4fav (9-8) Led, headed 2f out, regained lead under 1f out, stayed on well under pressure, won at Curragh 6f Grp 3 (1) gf beating Moss Vale (9-3) by 3/4l, 7 ran.
ZIDANE 6-1fav (9-1) Held up in centre group, headway well over 1f out, ran on strongly under pressure inside final furlong, led final stride, won at Goodwood 6f hcap (2) gf in Aug beating Borderlescott (9-9) by a shd, 27 ran.
ABRAHAM LINCOLN (IRE) 5-1 (8-13) Held up towards rear, 5th and headway on outer 2f out, soon challenged, led 1f out, ran on well, won at Curragh 6f stk gf beating Inourthoughts (8-9) by 2l, 10 ran.
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Old 09-30-2007, 06:42 AM
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2 tricky races there and dont forget the nice racing at the Curragh, US Ranger back and Lizard Island in the Beresford. If he (LIzard) wins nicely, I wouldnt be surprised to see him go to the States for the juvi Turf or something like that (thats me completely speculating though!!)
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Old 09-30-2007, 08:46 AM
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2 tricky races there and dont forget the nice racing at the Curragh, US Ranger back and Lizard Island in the Beresford. If he (LIzard) wins nicely, I wouldnt be surprised to see him go to the States for the juvi Turf or something like that (thats me completely speculating though!!)
There is every chance that US Ranger could get beaten today, i think. He's had a while of the track and he is entitled to need this.

As far as Ascot is concerned, i really fancy Ask today. He seems to go well fresh, soft ground won't be a problem and he is still improving. I'm not convinced Honolulu is as good as many are saying, and the drop back in trip won't help much either. It isn't a brilliant race, but it is competitive. Ask for me though.

The sprint is a lottery. If Ascot changed it's name to The Curragh for the day, surely Benbaun would get confused enough and decide to win But it all depends if he likes Ascot.
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edit: Benbaun is out.


Apparently they told him he was going to The Curragh, but when he left the horsebox he had a look around and asked to go home
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IBN KHALDUN..... i know it was only a nursery, but....... WOW!
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trying to get a nice jackpot ticket for the Curragh today but Ill have to single Lizard Island to make it affordable.

US Ranger looks to be miles clear on ratings and he should win very easily. I cant see him being beaten today and I dont even know who will come 2nd, they all look much of a muchness with the possible exception of Evening Time who might be good reverting to sprinting.

At Ascot, I like Silver Touch in the Diadem if the ground is soft enough. I might throw something at Baltic King as well.
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trying to get a nice jackpot ticket for the Curragh today but Ill have to single Lizard Island to make it affordable.

US Ranger looks to be miles clear on ratings and he should win very easily. I cant see him being beaten today and I dont even know who will come 2nd, they all look much of a muchness with the possible exception of Evening Time who might be good reverting to sprinting.

At Ascot, I like Silver Touch in the Diadem if the ground is soft enough. I might throw something at Baltic King as well.
I wouldn't want to bet US Ranger at 8/13, but that's just me. Evening Time does have a lot of pace, and i like her.

The ground has dried up at Ascot, especially on the straight track. They are calling it "good" but it might even be a little quicker than that, but it's still on the soft side on the round course.
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Very weak in the market now..... Evs
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Easy for him in the end. Slightly outpaced early, but well on top at the line.

You still in the jackpot??
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jackpot starts race 3 here..

am so gutted now as I wanted to back USR to beat nos 4,6,7 and 8 but entered it in wrong and did 4,5,6,7 so missed out on a pretty nice exacta hit.. radio commentator said he won very easily at the end.. EDIT 63.60 exacta.. DAMN!!

jackpot bet is as follows
Race 3 - 3, 6, 7
Race 4 - 6, 15, 17, 18
Race 5 - 1
Race 6 - 4,10, 18, 19

EDIT - jackpot gone. dont know how Eva's Request won it..
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jackpot starts race 3 here..

am so gutted now as I wanted to back USR to beat nos 4,6,7 and 8 but entered it in wrong and did 4,5,6,7 so missed out on a pretty nice exacta hit.. radio commentator said he won very easily at the end.. EDIT 63.60 exacta.. DAMN!!

jackpot bet is as follows
Race 3 - 3, 6, 7
Race 4 - 6, 15, 17, 18
Race 5 - 1
Race 6 - 4,10, 18, 19

EDIT - jackpot gone. dont know how Eva's Request won it..
Yes, i'm not sure how that won. Didn't have a bet in the race, but that is one i discounted almost straight away.
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YAY!!

Well done, Ask!!

Gallant will be happy.
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nice win.. he'll be a fine horse next year. Zaham ran really well as well.
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nice win.. he'll be a fine horse next year. Zaham ran really well as well.
Zaham is also a horse i like a lot..... at one point i thought Zaham was going to do Ask, and with my recent run of bad luck that would have just took the buscuit!

Ask travelled very well and it was his turn of foot that won the race. Any horse who shows a turn of foot over twelve furlongs on softish ground is a horse to be reckoned with at the highest level.

The Arc would surely come too soon, but it has been said that there has been a lot of each way support for him in the last couple of weeks.
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edit: Benbaun is out.


Apparently they told him he was going to The Curragh, but when he left the horsebox he had a look around and asked to go home
Smart boy!

Oh and I've co-adopted Ask and made him my '08 Arc pick.
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Not awake here... Al Qasi... did he run yet?

How does / did he look?
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Not awake here... Al Qasi... did he run yet?

How does / did he look?
He runs in 10mins........


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Oh one more thing.... Hattan already got his win for the year but how did he look?
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Oh one more thing.... Hattan already got his win for the year but how did he look?
Would you be mad if i said outclassed?? (worried face here)
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Would you be mad if i said outclassed?? (worried face here)
Oh of course not..... I know exactly what kinda horse he is.
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