Belmont 3rd Race Saturday

bogeydaman · #1 07-09-2006, 08:52 PM

I have not seen any other posts on this topic (unless I missed it), but was wondering if anyone else saw what happened in the 3rd at Belmont on Saturday (and were as shocked as I was below). 3 horse race which turned into a 2 horse race when the co fave was scratched in the gate.

I was watching the simulcast from my local track and had a small wager on the longer price of the 2 horses. When the race went off the prices on the board, TV screen, etc as the race went off, etc showed 8-5 and 1-5 on the 2horses. As stated the longer priced horse (including myself win). It takes about 15 minutes after the running of the race when the mutual system finally updates and I find that I get the amount of my bet back (thus they obviously refunded all bets).

So here is the question, does anyone know if they announced that they were running for purse money only (on TVG, any of the simulcast outlets, at Belmont, etc) prior to the running of the race??? The reason I ask is that I knew a lot of people around me who had losing tickets in the race that "hit the floor" and had no idea that the race was cancelled (since the board the entire race had the odds of the race on the board). I did not even see an announcement on the Belmont racing screen stating that the race was cancelled following the running of the race. The only way you could tell is that after the running of the 4TH race the payoff was for an all button in the 3rd race. Is there a NYRA rule that you cannot have betting on a 2 horse field (why did they make this purse money only).

I saved a buddy of mine about $20 in tickets (he had them in his back pocket), but I know a number of other people around me were not so fortunate.

NYRA should be ashamed of how this situation was handled. I have no problem in the cancellation of the race, but they have to update the board and make a general announcement prior to the running of the race. If this did occur at Belmont then something should be done in the future to notify its simulcast outlets.

Not sure if I am the only one that was impacted by this decision. Interested in others views

zippyneedsawin · #2 07-09-2006, 08:58 PM

man, that stinks. I didn't get to bet anything yesterday. I knew what happened in that race, but wasn't aware of the "refund issue."
sounds like NYRA should have done more to alert gamblers as to what was going on. But, I'm not surprised with the way they seem to be running things there these days.

blackthroatedwind · #3 07-09-2006, 09:27 PM

I was at Belmont Saturday and they made it abundantly clear the race was a non-wagering event after the scratch and there was a delay.

bogeydaman · #4 07-10-2006, 04:05 PM

That is at least good to hear (that it was clear live at the track). Did they leave the odds on the "board" at Belmont until after the race was over? The live simulcast signal showed the odds as they were loading into the gate, etc (as though it was a "normal" race)?
If I was the only one who caught this maybe I was just not paying enough attention (but then again there was at least 10 people around me that left tickets "on the floor" and who would not have known any better had I not alerted them).

It was also early in the day and thus the beer had not kicked in yet either.

#5 07-10-2006, 04:21 PM

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Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind

I was at Belmont Saturday and they made it abundantly clear the race was a non-wagering event after the scratch and there was a delay.

They have too. It is against the law for them to take bets on two horse races in NY. Any race with wagering must have 3 horses leave the gate.

#6 07-10-2006, 04:23 PM

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Originally Posted by zippyneedsawin

man, that stinks. I didn't get to bet anything yesterday. I knew what happened in that race, but wasn't aware of the "refund issue."
sounds like NYRA should have done more to alert gamblers as to what was going on. But, I'm not surprised with the way they seem to be running things there these days.

Zippy they announced for five minutes non stop before the race that there were refunds on all wagers and even explained why in relation to NYS law.
Trying to blame NYRA because this guy was at a simulcast outlet with no sound on is really not sound.

sumitas · #7 07-10-2006, 04:27 PM

LOL, you mean no close captioned on the simulcast screens, LOL.

hectic_1978 · #8 07-10-2006, 04:59 PM

So why did all those horses scratch out of the race? I didn't get to see anything, but heard it wasn't raining or anything and was a dirt race. What gives?

bogeydaman · #9 07-10-2006, 05:00 PM

One more reason to stay home and watch it on TVG / youbet, etc instead of going to the track. That leaves about 50 reasons to stay home for every 1 to go out there.

sumitas · #10 07-10-2006, 06:46 PM

Think positive or you'll keep firing bogies.

zippyneedsawin · #11 07-10-2006, 06:49 PM

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Originally Posted by oracle80

Zippy they announced for five minutes non stop before the race that there were refunds on all wagers and even explained why in relation to NYS law.
Trying to blame NYRA because this guy was at a simulcast outlet with no sound on is really not sound.

O, I wasn't blaming anyone, just basing an opinion on what this guy claimed was going on.