Derby Trail Forums

Go Back   Derby Trail Forums > Main Forum > Joe Silverio Simulcast Center
Register FAQ Members List Calendar Today's Posts

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1  
Old 11-28-2007, 09:29 AM
Kasept's Avatar
Kasept Kasept is online now
Steve Byk
 
Join Date: May 2006
Location: Greenwich, NY
Posts: 43,476
Default 11/28: AQU Inner Opener

Big A action moves to the quirky inner track today for a long run; Grass still an option at least for a few days. The inner is not always as ridiculously speed-favoring as it's made out to be, though recent seasons have shown there will be stretches where cheap frontrunners hang on and on and on for days, or weeks, at a time... What is most consistant about the inner, is the way some campaigners succeed over it year after year. Horses that are ordinary at Belmont and Saratoga, and even the Aqueduct main, regularly become Citations on the 'inner tube'.

Opening Day of the Winter Session has a tough P4 sequence as the $25k/NW3L 7th looks particularly like a trap race with many seemingly capable of upsetting.


AQUEDUCT

POST SCR/CHG'S... 6th OFF THE TURF... Inner labeled Fast...

6th: CLM/N3L, F&M-3+, 1m-T (P4, DD)

OFF THE TURF.. SCR 1, 2, 8, 9...

Best Value: #2b Mustand Cali 5-1 4th
Most Likely: #1a In for a Dime 5-2 2nd
Next Best: #4 Make It Come True 9-2: Hennig Spa maiden-breaker working steady for return.. 5th
Exotics Add: #6 Miss Buddhafull 4-1 3rd


7th: CLM/N3L, 3+, 1m-70y, (P3, Super)

Consider adding #'s 6-8 for deeper multi-race wagers..

Best Value: #5 Unbridled Danger 10-1: Class edge looking back; Zippy drills.. 5th
Most Likely: #7 Too Risky 3-1: Levine has had time to adjust 5yo.. WON
Next Best: #10 Tahoe Warrior 5-1: Expect Rice acquiree to send under CC.. 4th
Exotics Add: #4 Six Gun 15-1: Dunham winless on year; Bay sharp this strip earlier.. 3rd


8th: OC/N1X, F&M-3+, 6f (DD)

Best Value: #4 Lady Limit 6-1: Badgett bay prefers 'fast' surfaces.. 7th
Most Likely: #1a (POE) Rizzi's Twist 2-1: State-bred owns fig edge but will need rally.. 5th
Next Best: #2e McLaughlin entry 5-2: 1a Wild Hoots cuts back, goes T2D.. 3rd
Exotics Add: #3 Fearless Leader 8-1: Lerman namesake aced Swamp MSW, but no drill since.. 2nd


9th: NYB-ALW/N1X, 3+, 1m (Super)

Best Value: #6 Chernobyl's Hero 12-1: Odinitz going well; Gelding ITM 4 of 5 this strip.. 4th
Most Likely: #1a (POE) SCR
Next Best: #7 Love Abroad 8-1: Hertler bay has done best running this oval.. WON
Exotics Add: #8 True Wood 7-2: Wide drawn colt was used early last; Faces similar issue here.. 3rd


Main considerations for P4 Play:

6: 1-2-4
7: 5-7
8: 1-2-4
9: 1-6-7


Good luck!
Steve
__________________
All ambitions are lawful except those which climb upward on the miseries or credulities of mankind. ~ Joseph Conrad
A long habit of not thinking a thing wrong, gives it a superficial appearance of being right. ~ Thomas Paine
Don't let anyone tell you that your dreams can't come true. They are only afraid that theirs won't and yours will. ~ Robert Evans

Last edited by Kasept : 11-28-2007 at 05:21 PM.
Reply With Quote
  #2  
Old 11-28-2007, 09:47 AM
pmacdaddy's Avatar
pmacdaddy pmacdaddy is offline
The Curragh
 
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: Long Island, NY
Posts: 2,867
Default

Thanks Steve! Glad to have your input at AQU.

The "Inner Track Lovers" you mentioned is something I really keyed in on last year. Also found it especially useful when those type went off the Inner and got overbet. .

Any thoughts on how the inner track changes once the ground freezes? Is that when certain horses really outperform on the inner, or is it just a function of the surface in general?
Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old 11-28-2007, 11:05 AM
blackthroatedwind blackthroatedwind is offline
Jerome Park
 
Join Date: Jun 2006
Posts: 9,935
Default

The 6th is off the turf ( which is a blessing if you really liked the Hennig horse ).
Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old 11-28-2007, 11:18 AM
Pistol Pistol is offline
Ak-Sar-Ben
 
Join Date: Dec 2006
Posts: 689
Default 6th

I relly like Jenny's On Radio in this race to run a big one.
Reply With Quote
  #5  
Old 11-28-2007, 11:24 AM
Kasept's Avatar
Kasept Kasept is online now
Steve Byk
 
Join Date: May 2006
Location: Greenwich, NY
Posts: 43,476
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind
The 6th is off the turf ( which is a blessing if you really liked the Hennig horse ).
Thx Andrew!

Here's the complete SCR/CHG...
http://www.equibase.com/premium/changes/AQU-changes.asp
__________________
All ambitions are lawful except those which climb upward on the miseries or credulities of mankind. ~ Joseph Conrad
A long habit of not thinking a thing wrong, gives it a superficial appearance of being right. ~ Thomas Paine
Don't let anyone tell you that your dreams can't come true. They are only afraid that theirs won't and yours will. ~ Robert Evans
Reply With Quote
  #6  
Old 11-28-2007, 03:24 PM
Kasept's Avatar
Kasept Kasept is online now
Steve Byk
 
Join Date: May 2006
Location: Greenwich, NY
Posts: 43,476
Default

Sickened.. Got off Survived with the move from the grass.
__________________
All ambitions are lawful except those which climb upward on the miseries or credulities of mankind. ~ Joseph Conrad
A long habit of not thinking a thing wrong, gives it a superficial appearance of being right. ~ Thomas Paine
Don't let anyone tell you that your dreams can't come true. They are only afraid that theirs won't and yours will. ~ Robert Evans
Reply With Quote
  #7  
Old 11-28-2007, 03:43 PM
pmacdaddy's Avatar
pmacdaddy pmacdaddy is offline
The Curragh
 
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: Long Island, NY
Posts: 2,867
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Kasept
Sickened.. Got off Survived with the move from the grass.
Me too... Featured him prominently when I thought race was on grass. Was hard for me to like very much considering his 3 dirt starts on the program. Damn you Gary Contessa...lol.
Reply With Quote
  #8  
Old 11-28-2007, 04:26 PM
fantini33's Avatar
fantini33 fantini33 is offline
Churchill Downs
 
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: Boston
Posts: 1,860
Default

That late pick 4 payed over $7000!!!

Certainly not an impossible sequence. Just off a bit in the 8th...ouch.
__________________
Good Luck......and may a Derby Trailer lead the way to the window!

Ed
Reply With Quote
  #9  
Old 11-28-2007, 04:52 PM
blackthroatedwind blackthroatedwind is offline
Jerome Park
 
Join Date: Jun 2006
Posts: 9,935
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by fantini33
That late pick 4 payed over $7000!!!

Certainly not an impossible sequence. Just off a bit in the 8th...ouch.

That is mindboggling. The parlay was around $1300. It was obviously because the 8th winner was 20-1 or so in the Pick-4 ( hell I had the other 3 on a $48 play....hardly genius ). That was a tough horse to like. The main speed stumbling badly at the start certainly helped make her a winner.
Reply With Quote
  #10  
Old 11-28-2007, 05:18 PM
Kasept's Avatar
Kasept Kasept is online now
Steve Byk
 
Join Date: May 2006
Location: Greenwich, NY
Posts: 43,476
Default

$21,500 carryover too....
__________________
All ambitions are lawful except those which climb upward on the miseries or credulities of mankind. ~ Joseph Conrad
A long habit of not thinking a thing wrong, gives it a superficial appearance of being right. ~ Thomas Paine
Don't let anyone tell you that your dreams can't come true. They are only afraid that theirs won't and yours will. ~ Robert Evans
Reply With Quote
  #11  
Old 11-28-2007, 05:41 PM
Rootdog1's Avatar
Rootdog1 Rootdog1 is offline
Oaklawn
 
Join Date: May 2006
Location: LexVegas
Posts: 2,481
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind
That is mindboggling. The parlay was around $1300. It was obviously because the 8th winner was 20-1 or so in the Pick-4 ( hell I had the other 3 on a $48 play....hardly genius ). That was a tough horse to like. The main speed stumbling badly at the start certainly helped make her a winner.
$48 ticket? You will NEVER make money playing tickets that small. Sorry, had to.
Reply With Quote
  #12  
Old 11-28-2007, 05:43 PM
blackthroatedwind blackthroatedwind is offline
Jerome Park
 
Join Date: Jun 2006
Posts: 9,935
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Rootdog1
$48 ticket? You will NEVER make money playing tickets that small. Sorry, had to.
I was hoping somebody would pick up on that.
Reply With Quote
  #13  
Old 11-28-2007, 05:45 PM
pmacdaddy's Avatar
pmacdaddy pmacdaddy is offline
The Curragh
 
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: Long Island, NY
Posts: 2,867
Default

So much for the "chalk parade"...
Reply With Quote
  #14  
Old 11-28-2007, 05:47 PM
pmacdaddy's Avatar
pmacdaddy pmacdaddy is offline
The Curragh
 
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: Long Island, NY
Posts: 2,867
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Rootdog1
$48 ticket? You will NEVER make money playing tickets that small. Sorry, had to.
That was a good one...
Reply With Quote
  #15  
Old 11-28-2007, 06:18 PM
pmacdaddy's Avatar
pmacdaddy pmacdaddy is offline
The Curragh
 
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: Long Island, NY
Posts: 2,867
Default

Any idea if they will be back on Turf tomorrow at AQU?

Forecast looks OK.
Reply With Quote
  #16  
Old 11-28-2007, 06:38 PM
blackthroatedwind blackthroatedwind is offline
Jerome Park
 
Join Date: Jun 2006
Posts: 9,935
Default

They sort of have to keep at least the first one on unless we get rain.
Reply With Quote
Reply



Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

vB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Forum Jump


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 08:39 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.6.8
Copyright ©2000 - 2025, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.