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Old 01-09-2008, 06:41 PM
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Default Latest Future Odds for Derby 2008

Am heading to Vegas this weekend (anyone else?) and would like to get some future bets down . . . be interested in hearing how the DT'ers would invest $100 on these latest Future Odds?

http://www.horseplayerdaily.com/WYNNKD.pdf

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Old 01-09-2008, 06:46 PM
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Thanks for the info. That's quite a list to sort through.
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Old 01-09-2008, 06:55 PM
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I'd play $50 on Turf War and $50 on Giant Moon at 100-1 and 75-1, respectively.
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Old 01-09-2008, 07:06 PM
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I would put $10 on 10 horses

My list
Blackberry Road
Slew's Tiznow
Turf War
Kodiac Kowboy
Denis of Cork
Country Star
Visionaire
Miamonides
Check It Twice
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Old 01-09-2008, 07:23 PM
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I'd put the full $100 on Tale of Ekati at 40/1
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Old 01-09-2008, 07:40 PM
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tend at 175/1 and vacation at 125/1.

neither will likely make the race though, but what the hey!

ready's echo is 75/1 and is nearing a comeback. will a once raced pletcher trained maiden make it from january to the derby in may?
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Old 01-09-2008, 07:50 PM
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Legacy Thief, 125-1
It's impossible to really squabble with anyone taking a horse of talent at 125/1...

But I see Legacy Thief in the same exact mold as recent fellow Lukas runners Schrimshaw, Flying First Class, and Going Wild.

* Scrimschaw mopped up a super field including Ghostzapper on opening day at SA during the winter meet - he was a natural sprinter Lukas forced to route, could have been an elite sprinter - instead was ruined.

* Going Wild - people forget he had strong figures sprinting - was stretched out in the paceless Sham Stakes and went wire-to-wire over a pro speed, rail favoring track - while eventual Ky Derby winner Giacomo was hung five wide on both turns. Could have been an elite sprinter - instead was ruined.

* Flying First Class - facile 106 Beyer sprint win - big sprint pedigree - was instantly stretched out to two turns and beaten soundly while favored over Curlin. Instead of cutting back - Lukas kept pushing forward to try and make a Derby horse out of an elite sprint prospect. The closest thing he saw to a sprint was the Derby Trial - he was on a fast pace and won easily - and right back into the Preakness. Could have been an elite sprinter - instead was ruined.

* Legacy Theif - on the same card as Dahher's Cigar mile - he carves identical fractions to those turned in by Grade 1 older males - stays on for a wire-to-wire win. In a stroke of impossible genius - Lukas correctly cuts him back, and he wins - and does with identical fractions and final time to a Grade 3 stake for older male sprinters. I get the feeling come June he will be another who could have been an elite sprinter - instead was ruined.
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Old 01-09-2008, 08:00 PM
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$50 Court Vision
$50 Blackberry Road
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Old 01-09-2008, 08:23 PM
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Originally Posted by oilertige
Am heading to Vegas this weekend (anyone else?) and would like to get some future bets down . . . be interested in hearing how the DT'ers would invest $100 on these latest Future Odds?

http://www.horseplayerdaily.com/WYNNKD.pdf
If I were you I'd make a $5 dollar wager on whichever horse you like the best that is at least 75/1.
Then I would look over the Gulfstream cards for Saturday and Sunday and try to find a couple of horses you really like in any of those races. I'd spend about $45 playing those.
Then I'd spend the last $50 on alcohol. You can't lose.
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Old 01-09-2008, 08:24 PM
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I'd put $50 on Cowboy Cal at 75-1 and $50 on Unbridled Vicar at 250-1

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Old 01-09-2008, 08:29 PM
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Court Vision is my Derby horse this year and I'm sticking to it.
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Old 01-09-2008, 09:12 PM
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$20 win -

Etched / Golden Spikes / Macho Again / Monba / The Roundhouse



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Old 01-09-2008, 10:15 PM
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I'd take $20 on Indian Blessing at 10000000-1
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Old 01-09-2008, 10:37 PM
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I'd put $50 on Cowboy Cal at 75-1 and $50 on Unbridled Vicar at 250-1

NT
Same 2 that caught my eye. I just have a hard time seeing Greg Geier winning the derby.

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Old 01-09-2008, 10:42 PM
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I put $5 on Coal Play at 175-1 last Saturday..... just hope derby day comes up fast, as he sure didn't like the slop at GP and should be better at the longer distance.

Had to throw $5 on something and wouldn't even consider anything lower than 100-1 on them. The lower odds horses that were running as 2YO's in stakes will end up getting injured, as they've run to much too early.
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Old 01-09-2008, 11:07 PM
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i hate only 40/1 on Monba but based on his race in the cashcall i will probably be putting some money on him in the first pool of the Derby futures as i loved the way he closed into good fractions at the end of that race and it appeared that the track played pretty fair that day not dominated by one type or the other and i think his breeding has some potential for a KD winner.
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Old 01-09-2008, 11:13 PM
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50 on Denis of Cork
25 on Cowboy Cal
25 on Golden Spikes
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Old 01-09-2008, 11:30 PM
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Giant Moon
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Old 01-09-2008, 11:52 PM
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Giant Moon
He's a tough one. On the one hand, getting those odds on a Giant's Causeway that is 4 for 4 lifetime including three stakes wins and two races beyond a mile seems pretty good.
On the other hand, I don't even think he'll prove fast enough to make it to the starting gate of the Kentucky Derby.
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Old 01-10-2008, 12:15 AM
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He's a tough one. On the one hand, getting those odds on a Giant's Causeway that is 4 for 4 lifetime including three stakes wins and two races beyond a mile seems pretty good.
On the other hand, I don't even think he'll prove fast enough to make it to the starting gate of the Kentucky Derby.

I would rather take a shot with two dudes in a horse suit than that horse.
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