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02-06-2008, 05:39 PM
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Offshore Kentucky Derby futures
TheGreek has future odds up for the Derby. These are fixed odds. Whatever the odds are when you bet, those are your odds. If the horse doesn't start, tough luck.
In every case, TheGreek's odds are higher than the morning line for the Ky Derby Future Wager, Pool 1. (sometimes just barely higher, but sometimes 3 times as high.) Pyro and War Pass, both 12-1 in the Future Wager, are 18-1 at TheGreek. Anak Nakal ** 40.5 (20) Atoned ** 40.5 Alaazo ** 60.5 Beresford ** 80.5 Colonel John ** 30.5 (30) Court Vision ** 22.5 (12) Country Star ** 40.5 Cowboy Cal ** 40.5 (20) Denis of Cork ** 40.5 (30) Dixie Chatter ** 60.5 El Gato Malo ** 20.5 (15) Etched ** 42.5 (15) Georgie Boy ** 42.5 (20) Giant Moon ** 60.5 (20) Gold Coyote ** 80.5 Into Mischief ** 30.5 (20) Kodiac Kowboy ** 52.5 Maimonides ** 40.5 Majestic Warrior ** 30.5 (15) Monba ** 30.5 (30) Nownownow ** 80.5 Pyro ** 18.15(12) Signature Move ** 60.5 (50) Smooth Air ** 62.5 (20) Tale of Ekati ** 48.5 (20) Visionaire ** 42.5 War Pass ** 18.15 (12) Wicked Style ** 65.5 Z Fortune ** 52.5 (20) Z Humor ** 42.5 (15) Number in parenthesis is the Pool 1 Morning line. Four horses from the Future Pool are not listed at TheGreek. --Dunbar
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Curlin and Hard Spun finish 1,2 in the 2007 BC Classic, demonstrating how competing in all three Triple Crown races ruins a horse for the rest of the year...see avatar photo from REUTERS/Lucas Jackson 
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#2
02-07-2008, 06:36 AM
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Bodog odds
Adriano
90/1 Alaazo 80/1 Anak Nakal 25/1 Arcaro 90/1 Atoned 30/1 Barrier Reef 40/1 Belafonte 200/1 Beresford 40/1 Betatron 100/1 Blackberry Road 35/1 Bob Black Jack 50/1 Cafe Tortoni 30/1 Cannonball 25/1 Canyon Drive 100/1 Cave's Valley 100/1 Celestial Comet 150/1 Celina Slew 200/1 Chanjo 100/1 Check It Twice 35/1 Cherokee Triangle 35/1 Chitoz 40/1 Coal Play 85/1 Coast Guard 70/1 Cobra Strike 200/1 Colonel John 20/1 Commandeered 100/1 Cool Coal Man 80/1 Country Star 35/1 Court Vision 20/1 Cowboy Cal 13/1 Crackalackin 90/1 Dazzling Derek 90/1 Denis of Cork 50/1 Dixie Chatter 30/1 Dr. Nick 100/1 Drill Down 40/1 Dynamalt 150/1 E Z's Gentleman 200/1 Eagle Strike 35/1 El Gato Malo 10/1 Elinvar 80/1 Elysium Fields 80/1 Etched 30/1 Fed Watcher 100/1 Fidelio 80/1 Flint River 100/1 Gayego 50/1 Georgetown 100/1 Georgie Boy 25/1 Giant Moon 50/1 Gio Ponti 100/1 Globalization 100/1 Globetrotter 30/1 Gold Coyote 30/1 Golden Spikes 100/1 Good Man Dan 100/1 Halo Najib 50/1 Hard Strike 80/1 He's Eze 150/1 Hyrule 50/1 IBN Khaldun 150/1 Il Girasole 100/1 Imaginary Sailor 150/1 Immortal Eyes 100/1 Indian Blessing 40/1 Indian Sun 35/1 Indy Joe 150/1 Into Mischief 12/1 Isle of Giants 125/1 J BE K 80/1 Jedi Code 40/1 Kanan Dume 80/1 Kodiak Kowboy 20/1 Lantana Mob 40/1 Law Enforcement 100/1 Legacy Thief 100/1 Leonides 30/1 Liberian Fighter 200/1 Lieutenant Ron 100/1 Little Nick 200/1 Lizard Island 100/1 Luvandgo 100/1 Macho Again 125/1 Mad Flatter 125/1 Maimonides 40/1 Maite Empire 100/1 Majestic Warrior 30/1 Major General 100/1 Make The Point 100/1 Mambo in Seattle 150/1 Man of the West 100/1 Massive Drama 30/1 Monba 30/1 Mushka 100/1 Mythical Pegasus 200/1 New Approach 40/1 Nownownow 20/1 Numaany 70/1 Old Man Buck 70/1 Old Ninety Eight 70/1 Overbid 80/1 Overextended 100/1 Paint 60/1 Por Que 100/1 Preachin Man 100/1 Prussian 40/1 Pyro 10/1 Racecar Rhapsody 40/1 Ready's Echo 50/1 Ready's Image 70/1 Real Appeal 40/1 Riley Tucker 100/1 Rio De La Plata 40/1 Roman Emperor 70/1 Salute the Sarge 60/1 Sargent Seattle 100/1 Senor Afortunado 60/1 Shore Do 100/1 Sierra Sunset 60/1 Signature Move 50/1 Silver Edition 75/1 Slew's Tiznow 40/1 Smooth Air 40/1 Sok Sok 100/1 Spanky Fischbein 80/1 Star Defender 80/1 Stevil 100/1 Stungbythestorm 80/1 Tale of Ekati 35/1 Talk of a Cat 100/1 Texas Fever 70/1 Texas Wildcatter 70/1 The Darp 150/1 The Leopard 80/1 The Roundhouse 50/1 Tiz It 80/1 Turf War 100/1 US Cavalry 70/1 Unbridled Wish 40/1 Valdero 150/1 Victory Pete 50/1 Visionaire 70/1 Wall Street Humor 100/1 War Pass 25/1 Web Gem 100/1 West Coast Coach 100/1 Whatever Whenever 40/1 Why Tonto 40/1 Wicked Style 40/1 Wincat 70/1 Winsome Charm 70/1 Wise Answer 100/1 Yankee Bravo 40/1 Yonegwa 100/1 Your Round 100/1 Z Fortune 100/1 Z Humor 35/1 Field (Any Other Horse Not Listed) 3/1
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#3
02-07-2008, 10:22 AM
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In addition to TheGreek and Bodog, World Sports Exch (wsex.com) also has futures up. Here are the best odds for the 23 individual entries in the parimutual Future Wager using those 3 offshores:
Anak Nakal 45.5 TheGreek Blackberry Road 40 WSEX Bob Black Jack 80 WSEX Colonel John 30.5 TheGreek Court Vision 22.5 TheGreek Cowboy Cal 40.5 TheGreek Crown of Thorns 14 WSEX Denis of Cork 50 BoDog El Gato Malo 20.5 TheGreek Etched 42.5 TheGreek Georgie Boy 42.5 TheGreek Giant Moon 60.5 TheGreek Into Mischief 30.5 TheGreek Majestic Warrior 30.5 TheGreek Monba 30.5 TheGreek Pyro 20 WSEX Signature Move 60.5 TheGreek Smooth Air 62.5 TheGreek Tale of Ekati 48.5 TheGreek War Pass 25 BoDog Yankee Bravo 40 BoDog Z Fortune 100 BoDog Z Humor 60 WSEX TheGreek has best odds on 14 entries, Bodog has best odds on 4 entries, and WSEX has best odds on 5. You could very likely bet on every horse in this list (at the best odds shown) along with the "All others" in the parimutual Future Wager, and have a profitable arbitrage. --Dunbar
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Curlin and Hard Spun finish 1,2 in the 2007 BC Classic, demonstrating how competing in all three Triple Crown races ruins a horse for the rest of the year...see avatar photo from REUTERS/Lucas Jackson
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#4
02-07-2008, 12:59 PM
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I have a future bet on Blackberry Road at 150-1 but the more i look at him the more i realize that this horse is not going to win KD134. If i had it to do all over again would probably put the money on Monba. Im curious to know what people think the closing odds on the horses on the list will be.
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02-07-2008, 01:38 PM
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Cowboy Cal is the fourth choice at Bodog?
Crazy.
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02-07-2008, 02:08 PM
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