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![]() Kip Deville's 2008 according to Dutrow in DRF:
The 5 1/2-month layoff from the Breeders' Cup to the Maker's Mark was "all by design," said Richard Dutrow Jr., who trains Kip Deville. Dutrow said Kip Deville will be kept fresh all year. He said he did not envision Kip Deville running again until the Woodbine Mile in September, and then onto the Breeders' Cup Mile at Santa Anita in October. --Dunbar
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Curlin and Hard Spun finish 1,2 in the 2007 BC Classic, demonstrating how competing in all three Triple Crown races ruins a horse for the rest of the year...see avatar photo from REUTERS/Lucas Jackson |
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![]() This would be the opposite of him starting KD 5 days apart last summer in the classic Shoemaker Mile to Californian trainer move.
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![]() has this one done enough????
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![]() does not make any sense to me, he's 5 with not much pedigree.
why not keep winning races, i have never liked him, but he seems like he could dominate on the turf up to 1 1/8 |
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![]() yeah, i gotta agree with pg here.
makes no sense to bring a horse off a 5.5 month layoff with the intent of racing him one time and then lay him off again for 5 months! with that pedigree, i would expect him to keep trying to wrack up easy money stakes wins. i have a feeling that by fall, maybe some of these bad 3yos will be on turf and at least a few will be tougher to beat than what's out there in the current grass division. |
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![]() He's definitely best at a mile. He's gotta be worth something as a stud if he keeps winning G1s.
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![]() I dunno. Kipling stands for $7500 and he wasn't much of a runner. KD's dam has black type but not much of a ped. I don't think $10K would be unreasonable for a multiple G1 winner.
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![]() Isn't this the sort of horse that would have everything to gain and nothing to lose by trying on a synthetic track again, this time on more than 5 days rest? Why not try the Californian again? If it doesn't work you still have three months to the Woodbine Mile.
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especially with everything being so weak... 3yr olds, older horses... everything |
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and he's actually got a good pedigree. kipling is by gulch, who needs no introduction, and his dam is a full to summer squall, and a half to ap indy. then you have encino, his dams sire, who is a half sibling to terlingua, and a full sibling to royal academy. you can't just go by where his sire was standing to say whether he has a good pedigree or not. |
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ok ok i get it, he's just not nearly as flashy as some of the other sires, ppl would not be running to kip d |
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![]() Kip's dam side is pretty weak, though, Zig.
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kipling has one ok considering the mares he's gotten to date. wonder what he'll do with better now that he's moved? |
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![]() Who the hell knows what Dutrow is up to? He's probably using a drug on Kip that takes 5 months to recover from.
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