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07-20-2006, 10:20 AM
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Hypothetical Derby- TC Winners
Someone made a mention of how TC winners would do today trying to get through the three races. I figured, why not line them all up in the Derby and see how it shakes out!!
Sir Barton Gallant Fox Omaha War Admiral Whirlaway Count Fleet Assault Citation Secretariat Seattle Slew Affirmed How does this race play out? Does War Admiral or Citation get and easy lead or do they burn each other out? Does Big Red just stalk and pounce? Or is there enough pace for Whirlaway to close? Let's see some tri and super bets!! Here's mine: Tri: Secretariat/Citation/Whirlaway Super: Secretariat/Citation/Whirlaway/War Admiral Tri Saver: Citation, War Admiral/Secretariat, Citation, War Admiral, Whirlaway/ALL
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07-20-2006, 10:25 AM
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Secretariat War Admiral, Sir Barton, Assault All
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07-20-2006, 10:51 AM
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Secretariat
Citation/MOW/Count Fleet Citation/MOW/Count Fleet
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07-20-2006, 10:53 AM
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Man o' War didn't even run in all three races of the TC series. Sorry, doesn't qualify.
I think you guys are overlooking Affirmed. YOu want a horse with heart, that was a horse with some serious guts.
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07-20-2006, 10:54 AM
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And I think it's pretty much universally agreed that Assault was probably the weakest of the 11 TC winners.
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07-20-2006, 11:02 AM
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Secretariat Citation/Count Fleet Citation/Count Fleet/Omaha
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07-20-2006, 11:28 AM
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I think this race would play out counter-intuitively.
There's loads of speed in the race ... so intuitively you'd look for closers. But ... knowing there's so much speed ... makes everyone leery of a suicidal pace ... so ... Affirmed goes right out and sets a pace which isn't too taxing ... slower than his :45.3 in 1978 ... say :46.3 ... with Count Fleet and War Admiral close up ... Gallant Fox, Seattle Slew, Omaha, and Sir Barton next ... then Citation, Assault, Secretariat, and Whirlaway. But as they go down the backstretch ... Secretariat makes a Preakness-like move and goes towards the leaders. Citation and Gallant Fox move with him. After 6f in 1:10.2 ... Secretariat starts his big turn move and strikes the lead ... Affirmed as always digs back in ... and Citation, Count Fleet, Gallant Fox and War Admiral are right there after a mile in 1:34.3 ... as Seattle Slew and Sir Barton are under drives to keep up ... Omaha and Assault lose position ... and Whirlaway moves from the back. At the eighth pole ... Secretariat has opened up 4 ... Citation passes Affirmed ... Count Fleet and War Admiral are still together ... as are Seattle Slew and Sir Barton ... as Gallant Fox backs off a bit ... Whirlaway has made up some ground ... and Omaha and Assault are struggling. They go under the wire in 1:59 flat (NTR) ... with Secretariat winning by 3 1/2 lengths, Citation by 2 1/4 over Affirmed who has 1/2 on War Admiral ... who gets the best of a photo with Sir Barton and Count Fleet ... Whirlaway is another length back passing Seattle Slew and Gallant Fox ... who has 2 on Assault ... with Omaha last ... 13 lengths behind the winner. Secretariat pays $3.90 ... 2.40 ... 2.10 ... Citation ... $3.60 ... 2.20 ... Affirmed $3.20. The exacta pays $21.40 ... trifecta $85.00. Secretariat kicks and bucks as the blanket of roses is flung across his withers.
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07-20-2006, 11:30 AM
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Actually, I have a ton of respect for Slew, but such a field would not set up well for him imo...when it came to actually ranking the TC winners, here's what I came up with (Numbers in () are overall ranking): Secretariat (1) Citation (4) Count Fleet (10) War Admiral (14) Seattle Slew (15) Affirmed (17) Gallant Fox (29) Whirlaway (34) Assault (42) Omaha (43) Sir Barton (50)
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07-20-2006, 11:34 AM
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07-20-2006, 11:40 AM
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What was your total wager? And where are you taking me for dinner?
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07-20-2006, 11:57 AM
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I just don't think Omaha or Assault could really hang with this field. That being said, I'm pretty certain Slew would be pressing the lead a lot more closely.
Speaking of Omaha, I never realized how seldomly Gallant Fox actually ran. Only 17 starts back in the late 20's through early 30's. That is Ghostzapper like, 70 years earlier.
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07-20-2006, 01:14 PM
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03-18-2008, 12:31 AM
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nice bump
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03-18-2008, 12:38 AM
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They are all lucky Bid drew the AE for that mythical race
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