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Old 04-28-2008, 10:43 AM
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4f in 49.80. In my untrained opinion, looked like he wanted to do more and was under a tight hold early. He pulled a little around the turn and threw his head up. Took him awhile to switch leads going home, but he leveled off when he saw the wire and quickened his stride. Typical Assmussen work.
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Old 04-28-2008, 11:39 AM
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Shouldn't he be a little beyond having problems switching leads? . . . the head throwing thing isn't a particularly good sign either. . .
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Old 04-28-2008, 11:50 AM
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Shouldn't he be a little beyond having problems switching leads? . . . the head throwing thing isn't a particularly good sign either. . .
He did the same thing in his two wins this spring but was shot out of a cannon when he finally jumped over to his right.
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Asmussen doesn't use that stuff.

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Old 04-28-2008, 12:17 PM
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Something does not seem right with Pyro. His work time was not impressive at all. 1 offical work since his last and it is at 4 fr ?
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Old 04-28-2008, 12:31 PM
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Actually, Pyro had an untimed 6f work in the heavy fog last week. Pyro's last work before he won the La Derby was 4f in 50.4. I don't think any of the other horses that ran on Apr 12 (Bluegrass or Arkansas) have worked more than once since. Z Fortune (Asmussen)was even slower.

Without getting into it too deep. Yesterday's main workers Colonel and the fillies are always trained fast. Hardy learned from Baffert who put sharp drills into his Derby winners. Jones worked Hard Spun very fast last year. Asmussen, on the other hand, held Curlin to a 1:02 work before the Breeders Cup.
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Something does not seem right with Pyro. His work time was not impressive at all. 1 offical work since his last and it is at 4 fr ?
Uh, he's an Asmussen horse. You can count on one hand the horses that he regularly works under :49..
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Something does not seem right with Pyro. His work time was not impressive at all. 1 offical work since his last and it is at 4 fr ?
His feet are bothering him.
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May I ask how you know for a fact that Pyro's feet are bothering him?
Did someone's friend of a cousin of a friend who works horses in the AM give this news out, too, or did the colt tell you?
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I looked at the gallop, and to be honest, I dont find it bad. Yes he was tossing his head, but he wanted to do more than the rider wanted him to!!! So of course he would throw his head and let the rider know he didnt like going slow. He really got antsy when another horse went by down on the rail, but I like that, it shows me he wants to go, and not let the other horse get away. jmvho And I will add that after seeing him in March for the Risen Star, he looks like he has matured alot.
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Asmussen doesn't use that stuff.

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yeah, i mean, do you think he's stupid?!
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His feet are bothering him.
speaking of bothering...
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yeah, i mean, do you think he's stupid?!
He said so on HBO!
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His feet are bothering him.
yeah right , last 1/8 in 11 4/5 and the last quarter in 23 under a tight hold. he's real sore. talk is, it was one of the best works to date. i like this horse. they throw their heads alot, if the excersise rider goes faster than the trainer wants, they catch sh*t. the most important part of the work is the last part and this horse finished strong, i think this horse will come right back with a good performance saturday
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Welsh said he liked what he saw and thinks Pyro is "flourishing".
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Welsh said he liked what he saw and thinks Pyro is "flourishing".
The gent who posts daily updates on the KD.com site said exactly the opposite. It is funny how so many people can have so many different opinions on the same work.
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Old 04-29-2008, 10:02 AM
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The gent who posts daily updates on the KD.com site said exactly the opposite. It is funny how so many people can have so many different opinions on the same work.
Haskin's comments on the Kentuckyderby.com site.. " as impressive as any work I've seen since I've been here. Visually as good as it gets."

Jeff Lifson on kentuckyderby.com "a horse that's just thriving now."

To each his own I guess.
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His feet are bothering him.
is this some type of 'dis-information' being spewed out?
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Old 04-29-2008, 11:49 AM
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is this some type of 'dis-information' being spewed out?
This clown jumped on the board and started the rumor last week without anything to back it up.
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