Kent Desormeaux to ride Casino Drive?

Better Than Honour · #1 05-08-2008, 08:20 AM

This seems a little odd unless Desormeaux knows something about Big Brown not running in the Belmont. Why would a trainer put this guy on his horse knowing he will not be available for the one race that brought Casino Drive over here. Either Kent Desormeaux has a really good agent or the trainer is not very smart. Probably both.

#2 05-08-2008, 08:23 AM

Uh is there a link to a story or did you get this info fourthhand from Lonnie the OTB mush?

Better Than Honour · #3 05-08-2008, 08:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Coach Pants

Uh is there a link to a story or did you get this info fourthhand from Lonnie the OTB mush?

I got it from a person directly connected to the horse. This isn't a question of will he be riding, it is a question of why he is riding him. KD has the mount.

philcski · #4 05-08-2008, 08:41 AM

I think you're reading too much into this.

If Big Brown wins the Preakness, and moves on to the Belmont, Desormeaux will be riding- end of story.

Better Than Honour · #5 05-08-2008, 08:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by philcski

I think you're reading too much into this.

If Big Brown wins the Preakness, and moves on to the Belmont, Desormeaux will be riding- end of story.

Of course he will. So why would a trainer use a rider that he knows he isn't going to have for the Belmont? Wouldn't a trainer put a jockey on the horse that he knows will have ridden him one time before? There are a ton of jockeys out there that will be available for the belmont and peter pan.

VOL JACK · #6 05-08-2008, 08:58 AM

How did KD get the mount on BB anyway? didnt Prado ride him at saratoga? And since Edgar is first call for Dutrow, and KD never seems to ride for him seems weird KD got the call.

ninetoone · #7 05-08-2008, 09:02 AM

Jeremy Rose had the original mount.

Norfolk · #8 05-08-2008, 09:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Better Than Honour

I got it from a person directly connected to the horse. This isn't a question of will he be riding, it is a question of why he is riding him. KD has the mount.

From DRF story

Kent Desormeaux, who won the Kentucky Derby aboard Big Brown, will ride Casino Drive in the Peter Pan.
http://www.drf.com/news/article/94363.html

VOL JACK · #9 05-08-2008, 09:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ninetoone

Jeremy Rose had the original mount.

Yeah, I think Prado was the rider that was named but had a spill earlier in the day, or something like that.

miraja2 · #10 05-08-2008, 09:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Better Than Honour

Of course he will. So why would a trainer use a rider that he knows he isn't going to have for the Belmont? Wouldn't a trainer put a jockey on the horse that he knows will have ridden him one time before? There are a ton of jockeys out there that will be available for the belmont and peter pan.

This is just a guess, but it might have something to do with the fact that the "jock who has ridden him before" angle makes virtually no difference whatsoever.

Travis Stone · #11 05-08-2008, 09:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaHoss9698

Are jocks that important anyway?

I know I could name a few I'd rather avoid... but yes, you're right, at this level, they're largely similar.

blackthroatedwind · #12 05-08-2008, 09:43 AM

Kent also rode Cool Coal Man in the Blue Grass. Where were the Clouseaus then?

Deep breaths.

King Glorious · #13 05-08-2008, 09:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaHoss9698

Sounds to me like they want the best rider they can for the Peter Pan and then they'll deal with the Belmont when it comes. What's the big deal? Are jocks that important anyway?

Exactly. Worry about today and let tomorrow take care of itself.

Better Than Honour · #14 05-08-2008, 09:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaHoss9698

Sounds to me like they want the best rider they can for the Peter Pan and then they'll deal with the Belmont when it comes. What's the big deal? Are jocks that important anyway?

If jocks aren't that important than I think they could find quite a few that will be available for the Peter Pan and Belmont. This is Belmont Park. There are a ton of top jockeys there.

KD has a reputation for not showing up sometimes. I wouldn't want him to not show up on my horse knowing that my horse might be a threat to his star mount down the road.

Better Than Honour · #15 05-08-2008, 09:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaHoss9698

Come on. Is this like some early excuse for how bad Casino Drive is likely to run?

No. I just don't see any reason to not put a jockey on the horse that will be riding him in the Belmont. It is foolish. Pick a jockey for the Belmont and put him on the horse for the Peter Pan.

He won't run poorly. It probably will be a 6-7 horse field and 3 or 4 of them won't be able to run 12f. Casino Drive obviously has the pedigree to go 12f. He will hit the board and be a serious threat to win if BB doesn't show up or can't run the distance, which seems unlikely. Although 12f is a long way to go with bad feet, especially when it is the 3rd race in 5 weeks.

blackthroatedwind · #16 05-08-2008, 09:59 AM

How come my Kent on Cool Coal Man in the Blue Grass has been ignored?

Oh, I know why, because it completely exposes how stupid this thread is.

SniperSB23 · #17 05-08-2008, 10:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaHoss9698

I'm just brainstorming here (scary, I know)but maybe there aren't a lot of jocks agents willing to make a 2 race committment to an unknown commodity? These guys and girls for the most part are professional. I don't see the big deal.

Yeah, not to mention that you give yourself the best chance to do well in the Peter Pan and then put yourself in the best position to get the best jockeys available for the Belmont.

MisterB · #18 05-08-2008, 10:37 AM

So Yamamoto has been pointing this horse to the Belmont since his easy maiden win back in Feb. 1 1/8 mile maiden debut win

Since the PP has been the local prep race for the Belmont, he chooses the Jock who just won the No.1 Race in America.

Yea, those Japanese are real stupid people.

cruised 5fl yesterday 59.95.

If he loses to this bunch, he should pack it up and head home.

blackthroatedwind · #19 05-08-2008, 10:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MisterB

So Yamamoto has been pointing this horse to the Belmont since his easy maiden win back in Feb. 1 1/8 mile maiden debut win Since the PP has been the local prep race for the Belmont, he chooses the Jock who just won the No.1 Race in America.

Yea, those Japanese are real stupid people.

cruised 5fl yesterday 59.95.

If he loses to this bunch, he should pack it up and head home.

Exactly.

He will, most likely, lose to this bunch.

#20 05-08-2008, 10:48 AM

Ohhh a five furlong work in 59.95.

Half the field will scratch out of respect for that blazing work.