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05-09-2008, 02:43 PM
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Pimlico Racetrack
I've been reading alot on-line from trainers saying they are entering the Preakness because Pimlico is a speed favoring track (due to tight turns). Is this really true? While I don't have the stats, I remember during an ESPN 2007Preakness preview, one of the announcers stating Pimlico is not speed favoring.
Looking at the Preakness winners since 2000, I would have to agree. The winners, excluding War Emblem, were presser types runners. 2000 - Red Bullet, 2001 - Point Given, 2002 - War Emblem, 2003 - Funny Cide 2004 - Smarty Jones, 2005 - Afleet Alex, 2006 - Bernardini, 2007 - Curlin 
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05-09-2008, 02:45 PM
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Where's MissCashAlot when we need her. She has all these types of stats at her fingertips.
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05-09-2008, 02:46 PM
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Pimlico's track is notoriously inside speed favoring but I don't think it has anything to do with the turns. . .
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05-09-2008, 02:58 PM
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I think someone has actually done mathematical analysis that concluded Pimlico's turns weren't any tighter than those of Churchill Downs.
Anyway, Curlin came from a ways off the pace last year, but the others mentioned fit an entirely different pattern.
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05-09-2008, 03:08 PM
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http://www.jessicachapel.com/railbir..._monmouth.html I went to the BC there and didn't think it was that big a factor. Of course, the mud kind of buried most track condition considerations.
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05-09-2008, 03:10 PM
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Pimlico 1 Year Fast Route stats
24/76 or 31.6% W2W winners (20% par) 47/76 or 61.8% winners sitting 1-2-3 at first call (50% par) Average field size is just above 7 Pimlico current meet Fast Route stats 7/31 or 22.6% W2W winners (20% par) 19/31 or 61.3% winners sitting 1-2-3 at first call (50% par) Average field size is close to 7
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05-09-2008, 03:39 PM
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A couple of years ago, one of the networks placed photos of each track over each other and they both matched up exactly, dispelling the notion of tighter turns. Now the degree of the bank of the turns is still out there!
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05-09-2008, 04:06 PM
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03-20-2010, 01:54 AM
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Apparently we forgot to tell Paul about our conclusions about Pimlico's turns.
http://www.bloodhorse.com/horse-raci...d-to-preakness He says on Bloodhorse.com Quote:
 Can we just get all the people at that Alibi Breakfast to watch a quick powerpoint presentation on the turns at Pimlico and clear it up once and for all?Exhibit A: http://www.east-coast-bias.com/2008/...ght-turns.html Exhibit B: http://www.nytimes.com/1988/05/16/sp...l?pagewanted=1 (says the turns are actually longer)
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03-20-2010, 06:16 AM
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The tight turn myth is due particularly to the banking of the turns.
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03-20-2010, 12:19 PM
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I smell a segment opportunity for Kenny Mayne.. 
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