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Old 05-26-2008, 07:10 PM
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Was this an actual work this morning at Belmont? Could he have possibly gone that slow for 6f?

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Old 05-26-2008, 07:47 PM
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Was this an actual work this morning at Belmont? Could he have possibly gone that slow for 6f?

TALE OF EKATI (KY) 1:18.97 b

Yes he did and Barclay Tagg was not happy.

"I don't know how a world-class rider can go out there and work [a horse] in 1:18 - I just don't know," said Tagg, who added he was so upset that he didn't talk to Coa after the move. "I told him go in 1:12."
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Old 05-26-2008, 08:12 PM
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Maybe Coa was thinking of Funny Cide's run off 57 a few days before the Belmont and decided to train TOE himself?
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Old 05-26-2008, 08:23 PM
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is coa really a world class rider??
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Old 05-26-2008, 08:26 PM
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Yes he did and Barclay Tagg was not happy.

"I don't know how a world-class rider can go out there and work [a horse] in 1:18 - I just don't know," said Tagg, who added he was so upset that he didn't talk to Coa after the move. "I told him go in 1:12."
I dont see why Tagg is so upset. Its not like he was capable of going much faster.
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Old 05-26-2008, 08:27 PM
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is coa really a world class rider??
I would guess not in your eyes. Perhaps it's in the eye of the beholder. In this case I am sure Tagg was looking for ammunition.

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Old 05-26-2008, 08:39 PM
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lol
no, i don't know if he is or not, which is why i asked...but you'd think if he was world class, he'd get closer to what the trainer wanted then that.
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Old 05-26-2008, 08:40 PM
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I would guess not in your eyes. Perhaps it's in the eye of the beholder. In this case I am sure Tagg was looking for ammunition.

Eric
he doesn't strike me as someone who is very understanding or forgiving....
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Old 05-26-2008, 08:45 PM
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lol
no, i don't know if he is or not, which is why i asked...but you'd think if he was world class, he'd get closer to what the trainer wanted then that.
I hate the he said she said nonsense. However, IMO, Tagg is an excellent trainer, a very sharp horseman. Coa is a top jock. That being said, from what I gather, the track was dry, heavy, deep, etc. (all the words I heard from various people) after the break. Coa had said the horse was on the wrong lead, started finished wrong, wasn't his usual self, etc. I didn't ask Coa about it myself, but, regardless Coa has a good clock and knows better.

I would think he made a judgement call -- either pull him up or go on? If you go on, hope the colt gets right. He's a pro. You are not talking about some rookie. Something must have been going on.

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Old 05-26-2008, 09:10 PM
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That is hilarious. This from the guy that was upset about a fifth of a second too fast for Big Truck's work. That would have made a great episode of Punk''d!


Tampa Bay Derby (G3) winner BIG TRUCK (Hook and Ladder) breezed four furlongs in :48 4/5 on Keeneland's Polytrack on Tuesday in preparation for the 134th running of the Kentucky Derby (G1) on May 3 at Churchill Downs. Trainer Barclay Tagg described the move as a "maintenance work." It ranked eighth out of 43 works at the distance.

"He went a little faster that I wanted, but it's fine," Tagg said. "I generally like their maintenance works to be around :49, but it's no problem."
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Old 05-26-2008, 09:12 PM
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Tagg has more problems with workouts/complains about more workout times than any other trainer on earth. . .
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Old 05-26-2008, 09:33 PM
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I have seen works off by as much as a second but 6 seconds?
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Old 05-26-2008, 09:42 PM
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We may see a jock change
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Old 05-26-2008, 09:49 PM
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We may see a jock change
OK, who do you think?

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Old 05-26-2008, 09:52 PM
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We may see a jock change
I doubt it. . .
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Old 05-26-2008, 09:57 PM
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OK, who do you think?

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Old 05-26-2008, 09:58 PM
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Yeah, I kind of saw that one coming.

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Old 05-26-2008, 10:03 PM
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Yeah, I kind of saw that one coming.

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walked right into it...
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Old 05-26-2008, 10:32 PM
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I just got the call from Tagg. Kent D's wife and her implants are already booked. I'll be riding Tale of Ekati. Do you guys think it will be okay if I use a western saddle?? I forgot to ask Barclay.
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Old 05-27-2008, 12:17 AM
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only if you wear boots, spurs, and hat to match. oh, and chaps. just not assless please.
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