Saturdays Top Performers ?

jcs11204 · #1 06-14-2008, 10:50 PM

Curlin was super....
That frankel filly is ok.
Gravitational.... i think thats it.... he was sharp and looked like a winner every step of the race.
Hystericalady

Hickory Hill Hoff · #2 06-14-2008, 11:44 PM

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Originally Posted by jcs11204

Curlin was super....
That frankel filly is ok.
Gravitational.... i think thats it.... he was sharp and looked like a winner every step of the race.
Hystericalady

YOU!

of course...

Linny · #3 06-15-2008, 09:21 AM

That Tiznow horse in the Jefferson Cup looed good. He beat little but he rebroke in the lane for a 1/16 and then eased to the wire. He looks ready to try better.

kgar311 · #4 06-15-2008, 12:08 PM

Does anyone think that Eistein put in a hell of a performance? I remember a few posts that began with "why" and "poorly handled" I think he made a real good showing for himself.

hockey2315 · #5 06-15-2008, 12:32 PM

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Does anyone think that Eistein put in a hell of a performance? I remember a few posts that began with "why" and "poorly handled" I think he made a real good showing for himself.

Not really that impressed. . . he ran a similar race to his race in the Donn probably. I liked Tizdejavu in his last race but was shocked by how he ran today. Granted, he did get an easy lead, but the way he opened up was pretty impressive and wasn't something I was expecting. Gravitational ran pretty big too - he might be one to watch. I wish Hystericalady and Ginger Punch had run in the same race. . .

kgar311 · #6 06-15-2008, 12:41 PM

I think there is some short sightedness when it comes to this race and what they were trying to do. I think this was a test to see how he would do against the "rest" of the handicap division. Curlin does not look like hes pointing towards the BCC and who knows about BB. So seeing the classic is being run on the turf, oh I mean polytrack, I think this is a good sign that they might and I mean might, try pointing this horse to the classic if they can get a similar field minus Curlin.

hockey2315 · #7 06-15-2008, 12:44 PM

Then shouldn't they have run him on poly?

kgar311 · #8 06-15-2008, 12:49 PM

No, the top handicappers aren't racing on poly and if he can beat them on their own turf, no pun intended, then im sure he will have an easier time with them on poly. I believe a poly with be thrown in the near future. Maybe the pacific classic?

Strategic Mission · #9 06-15-2008, 12:49 PM

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Originally Posted by kgar311

Does anyone think that Eistein put in a hell of a performance? I remember a few posts that began with "why" and "poorly handled" I think he made a real good showing for himself.

No. He wasn't even close and he got 10 pounds. He has a chance at a turf Eclipse and they are running him on the dirt. Makes no sense. He can't compete with top dirt horses and the Donn showed that.

hockey2315 · #10 06-15-2008, 12:52 PM

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Originally Posted by kgar311

No, the top handicappers aren't racing on poly and if he can beat them on their own turf, no pun intended, then im sure he will have an easier time with them on poly. I believe a poly with be thrown in the near future. Maybe the pacific classic?

This doesn't make sense. . .

kgar311 · #11 06-15-2008, 12:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Strategic Mission

No. He wasn't even close and he got 10 pounds. He has a chance at a turf Eclipse and they are running him on the dirt. Makes no sense. He can't compete with top dirt horses and the Donn showed that.

Are you talkin about a race that happened back in January? And yea he wasnt even close yesterday but nobody was or could be. I liked the run he made in the stretch.

kgar311 · #12 06-15-2008, 12:55 PM

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This doesn't make sense. . .

That doesnt make sense. Explain???

hockey2315 · #13 06-15-2008, 01:03 PM

Because beating horses on dirt and beating horses on poly aren't the same thing. You automatically assume that he'll take to the poly and be better on it than on dirt. And, besides Curlin, the top older horses ARE on the poly - Heatseaker and Tiago. Those are the ones he'll have to beat (but won't be able to) in the classic - not the great Barcola and Grasshopper. And I can't even understand the rest of your post - but if you're saying he'll be going to the Pacific Classic you're way off. Not that I wouldn't put it past the connections to make a stupid decision like that from their jail cells, but I'm pretty sure he'll be running in the Arlington Million where he belongs.

Strategic Mission · #14 06-15-2008, 01:09 PM

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Are you talkin about a race that happened back in January? And yea he wasnt even close yesterday but nobody was or could be. I liked the run he made in the stretch.

February, but yes. He is a grade 1 turf horse and basically a grade 2/3 dirt horse that was easily handled yesterday. If you want to try to steal a grade 1 dirt race for breeding reasons you don't do it with Curlin in there. The Suburban is in 2 weeks and they could have tried that. He might actually be able to beat the mediocre horses that will show up for that. He probably should have run in the Manhattan last week.

kgar311 · #15 06-15-2008, 01:12 PM

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Originally Posted by hockey2315

Because beating horses on dirt and beating horses on poly aren't the same thing. You automatically assume that he'll take to the poly and be better on it than on dirt. And, besides Curlin, the top older horses ARE on the poly - Heatseaker and Tiago. Those are the ones he'll have to beat (but won't be able to) in the classic - not the great Barcola and Grasshopper. And I can't even understand the rest of your post - but if you're saying he'll be going to the Pacific Classic you're way off. Not that I wouldn't put it past the connections to make a stupid decision like that from their jail cells, but I'm pretty sure he'll be running in the Arlington Million where he belongs.

Um yea you are correct. I said "maybe the Pacific Classic?" So that does mean I said he will definately be going to the Pacific Classic. Im only stating that IMO this might be the reason they raced him yesterday. I dont know what the connection are going to do and neither do you. But if I had a decent horse with alot of ability I sure as hell would like a shot at the most prestigious rece in the world. If they dont want a shot at the classic then racing him yesterday was the dummest move of all time.

kgar311 · #16 06-15-2008, 01:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Strategic Mission

February, but yes. He is a grade 1 turf horse and basically a grade 2/3 dirt horse that was easily handled yesterday. If you want to try to steal a grade 1 dirt race for breeding reasons you don't do it with Curlin in there. The Suburban is in 2 weeks and they could have tried that. He might actually be able to beat the mediocre horses that will show up for that. He probably should have run in the Manhattan last week.

The whole handicap division is loaded with grade 2 or 3 horses or worse NW's running in Grade 1's. And their intention was not to beat Curin yesterday it was to run exactly the way he did. "Big Picture"

NoLuvForPletch · #17 06-15-2008, 01:24 PM

Tiger Woods

pgiaco · #18 06-15-2008, 04:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Strategic Mission

February, but yes. He is a grade 1 turf horse and basically a grade 2/3 dirt horse that was easily handled yesterday. If you want to try to steal a grade 1 dirt race for breeding reasons you don't do it with Curlin in there. The Suburban is in 2 weeks and they could have tried that. He might actually be able to beat the mediocre horses that will show up for that. He probably should have run in the Manhattan last week.

He can't run in New York because of license issues with his jailbird owners.

Danzig · #19 06-15-2008, 04:30 PM

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Originally Posted by NoLuvForPletch

Tiger Woods

sure wasn't phil

Pedigree Ann · #20 06-15-2008, 04:58 PM

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Originally Posted by kgar311

I So seeing the classic is being run on the turf, oh I mean polytrack, I think this is a good sign that they might and I mean might, try pointing this horse to the classic if they can get a similar field minus Curlin.

Cushion track is not Polytrack. Poly was designed for turfers in GB to work on when the gallops were wet, and to race on in the winter when the turf is 'way too soft to race on. Cushion has a completely different origin, and seems to play much more like traditional dirt.