handicapping..how much do you expect ?

[hoovesupsideyourhead]

in return.. for your time..my expected return for time put into a card is about 125.00 per hour..now some people will put more time in and many others much less.. if everything works out and the horses you have selected by the process of capping replays ect...minus the track take out..

[jcs11204]

when i go for a day to bet, like to otb, or the track... i expect to come home with more then i went there with. if i am going into play a race or 2, or a specific pick 3 or 4, i will try to set more specific goals.

[hoovesupsideyourhead]

Originally Posted by hoovesupsideyourhead

in return.. for your time..my expected return for time put into a card is about 125.00 per hour..now some people will put more time in and many others much less.. if everything works out and the horses you have selected by the process of capping replays ect...minus the track take out..

then the reality sets in..betting wrong, bad trips ,stiff rides and lack of pace..knocks it down to 20 bucks ...is it still worth it?

[jcs11204]

Originally Posted by hoovesupsideyourhead

then the reality sets in..betting wrong, bad trips ,stiff rides and lack of pace..knocks it down to 20 bucks ...is it still worth it?

i enjoy a day at otb or the track....i enjoy handicapping, not saying its ok to lose.... but breaking even is not the worst thing after a 4-8 hour day of betting.

[Bobby Fischer]

Right now with my bankroll size, $3-$4 an hour is a realistic goal for me. If I work about 70 hours a week(35handicapping + 35looking at the pools) and if I can make $20 bucks on the "off" days and $50 on the major track days, I am very happy. If I can prove to myself that I can be consistent and disciplined in my wagering, then I will save money and use a larger bankroll.
The last time I took the game seriously, I made what was for me a lot of money in a couple weeks and then went out of control.

Eleventy billion dollars/hour.

[blackthroatedwind]

Originally Posted by Bobby Fischer

Right now with my bankroll size, $3-$4 an hour is a realistic goal for me. If I work about 70 hours a week(35handicapping + 35looking at the pools) and if I can make $20 bucks on the "off" days and $50 on the major track days, I am very happy. If I can prove to myself that I can be consistent and disciplined in my wagering, then I will save money and use a larger bankroll.
The last time I took the game seriously, I made what was for me a lot of money in a couple weeks and then went out of control.

I'm confused.....didn't you make a recent internet claim to bet $4 to $5 million annually?

[jcs11204]

Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind

I'm confused.....didn't you make a recent internet claim to bet $4 to $5 million annually?

lol omg this is to much 3 a hour ?

[Bobby Fischer]

Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind

I'm confused.....didn't you make a recent internet claim to bet $4 to $5 million annually?

No. lol. I am disabled from two open heart surgeries, and waiting to recieve subsidized housing. Most of my "millions" goes to rent. I am lucky to churn $30,000 through the windows on a profitable year (churn not profit).

maybe your thinking of a sarcastic reply in "Whales" thread over at pa.





either that or spend 1,666,666 hours @ $3/hr

[miraja2]

My per hour "rate" must be absolutely horrible....even during the rare stretches when I am actually playing well. I don't know about other people, but I spend a significant amount of time handicapping races that I don't end up betting. If I look at a race for say 40 minutes, and have done all the work I can on it....but still can't find anything that I think is dark form or a good value, I'll often just skip it and move on to the next race. While doing it this way certainly leads to me making fewer truly bad plays than I once did, it doesn't really lead to a great hourly rate.

I have never really thought of it in those terms however. If I get to spend 5 hours handicapping an entire card, and I walk away from the day up $5, I consider it a great day.

Originally Posted by Bobby Fischer

Right now with my bankroll size, $3-$4 an hour is a realistic goal for me. If I work about 70 hours a week(35handicapping + 35looking at the pools) and if I can make $20 bucks on the "off" days and $50 on the major track days, I am very happy. If I can prove to myself that I can be consistent and disciplined in my wagering, then I will save money and use a larger bankroll.
The last time I took the game seriously, I made what was for me a lot of money in a couple weeks and then went out of control.

[jcs11204]

Originally Posted by Coach Pants

im confused.

I end up trying to get good at one track only.

Then when I look over a card, I toss so many races.

Usually concentrate on one or two races with watching
as many replays as possible important to those races.
Problem is when I see the tote board on some of the races
I have tossed, I wanna smack myself for not making some
notes. I know I miss some because what I considered unbettable
became bettable.

Hooves.
I have no idea how you can cap so many venues.
My brain just cannot keep with so many tracks.

I find myself making just a few large bets a year now.
So I have problems. I just dont bet many races.
This is why I like reading what others are doing.

So thanks for the effort Hooves and others.

[Sightseek]

Originally Posted by miraja2

My per hour "rate" must be absolutely horrible....even during the rare stretches when I am actually playing well. I don't know about other people, but I spend a significant amount of time handicapping races that I don't end up betting. If I look at a race for say 40 minutes, and have done all the work I can on it....but still can't find anything that I think is dark form or a good value, I'll often just skip it and move on to the next race. While doing it this way certainly leads to me making fewer truly bad plays than I once did, it doesn't really lead to a great hourly rate.

I have never really thought of it in those terms however. If I get to spend 5 hours handicapping an entire card, and I walk away from the day up $5, I consider it a great day.

Me too.

[dellinger63]

But knowing an old farmer who barely knows how to hit print is sharing yours and Byk's picks with a one legged guy and a crack dealer at an old run down OTB in the middle of the corn fields of Illinois makes it all worth it.

[SentToStud]

Originally Posted by dellinger63

But knowing an old farmer who barely knows how to hit print is sharing yours and Byk's picks with a one legged guy and a crack dealer at an old run down OTB in the middle of the corn fields of Illinois makes it all worth it.

Is Peru still open? Attached to a Ramada, I think, across from the giant truck stop.

[hoovesupsideyourhead]

yes it does..

[westcoastinvader]

Originally Posted by pgardn

I end up trying to get good at one track only.

Then when I look over a card, I toss so many races.

Usually concentrate on one or two races with watching
as many replays as possible important to those races.
Problem is when I see the tote board on some of the races
I have tossed, I wanna smack myself for not making some
notes. I know I miss some because what I considered unbettable
became bettable.

Hooves.
I have no idea how you can cap so many venues.
My brain just cannot keep with so many tracks.

I find myself making just a few large bets a year now.
So I have problems. I just dont bet many races.
This is why I like reading what others are doing.

So thanks for the effort Hooves and others.

Somewhat similar.

I probably look at the California tracks every day I realize I might have a chance to hit the OTB. Maybe 3 days a month on average, and occasionally more.

I only play if I see a setup I like, based only on limited criteria I like to track. Not too anal about tracking, keeping the betting action purely fun.

If I go in with a set play, it's normally for one or two races, and normally between $40 and $120 per race. But I do normally allow myself one spontaneous recreational bet if I see something interesting happening at another track with a glance at the form, I might let $30 to $75 go there.

If I hit anything, especially my set plays, I might play one more spontaneous bet, but am certain to walk out with a profit.

On my pre-set plays, I do normally watch some calracing.com replays to get ideas and confirm thoughts before wagering.

I'm not going to brag about winnings, but I'm sure I win at least 50% of the time...though likely not much more. I never lose more than $300 in a day, and frequently win $150 to $300 in a day. Those are the most common occurrences.

As we all know, the great pleasure is getting the "sweet spot" hit on one of the big exactas or tri's and going high triple digits.

I think I've played one "pick (fill in the blank)" in my life. I just don't enjoy handicapping and relying on required outcomes in consecutive races to collect my ticket.

I'm primarily an Exacta, Quinella, Win, and Tri bettor. I will back up with a Place bet under certain circumstances, though I know others here poo-poo the idea. I'll go supers in big races only, or with the track's $$ in my pocket.